The BDE - GC War OOC Thread
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  • Posted On: Feb 25 2006 4:36am
Hey Kraker, there were other threads in these 10 pages. You mean more like... 3 than 10 ;)

Edit: And in my formal opinion, thanks to my recent R&D the flowers have multi-phasic shielding so I believe the flowers to be quite intact.
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  • Posted On: Feb 25 2006 2:20pm
No, the 'Flowers ' will be safely moved out of the 'Combat Zone'
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  • Posted On: Feb 25 2006 8:43pm
Well, shooting or not, the question remains - is self-destruct plausible in this situation?
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  • Posted On: Feb 28 2006 1:06am
Sorry about my slow posting people, really I am...

Works just on me, we've been cut down to four people, ones laid out sick and the manager has Jury duty... which means me and the 3rd key manager are there, all day, everyday. Really sapping it out of me right now.

This isnt my 'I give up notice' or 'Im taking a break' I just need a day off to post, and Ill get everything done that I can.
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  • Posted On: Mar 1 2006 12:32am
*Polite Cough* Omega? Omnae? Still waiting on the Self-Destructing issue. As further posting validates previous posts, I can't proceed until either satisfied by an edit, convinced of the validity of the tactic, or otherwise told to proceed by a staff.
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  • Posted On: Mar 1 2006 6:25pm
Just something to sort through before I make a battle reply... finally

Visionary Dragonslayer: The Teth Spearhead (Starting with Chandaar)

Appearing over the wormholes, I argue that the wormholes are themselves gravitational phenomina and thus put out a hyperspace shadow, and if thats not good enough, they are fairly well into the system, where sudden appearances from hyperspace would be rather unlikely, due to the very same shadows. Its a minor thing, but Id rather have it edited before I reply, than to reply and just accept it.
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  • Posted On: Mar 1 2006 6:30pm
My only issue with it really is does your description before the self destruction post adequately illustrate that pieces of the ship have remained on the suface while only the middle section falls or that the entire ship has fallen into the hole.

This is not a matter of what you wanted to describe or what you intended to describe but what you actually did describe.

And personally, I think your description alludes more to the entire ship falling than just the middle section.

If the ONLY piece of the ship on the bottom is simply the center section of the ship, then no. No self destruct.

If the other pieces are there along with the middle section (as described in Omega's post), then I think it's plausable.



But get another admin (Ahnk?) as we've been arguing about this for a while and I have not convinced you and you have not convinced me. So whatever a third party agrees too is fine with me.
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  • Posted On: Mar 1 2006 6:48pm
What do I need to rule on?

And what's the issue with wormholes as a mass shadow?
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  • Posted On: Mar 1 2006 8:38pm
Well, in the latest post of The Profits of War (Kubindi), Omega Thrax's Dreadnought self-destructs inside the capital city of Kubindi, wiping out buildings and people. Now, the whole argument about how much damage such an explosion would do is beyond my comprehension (Do the Ion reactors leave deadly, Chernobyl-style radiation poisoning?) but I think that he couldn't self-destruct his reactor in the first place, because I think the way in which I described the damage inflicted to his vessel in my previous post would not allow for such a command to be given.

In the previous post, I state "Finally passing a tipping point, the central wreck of the starship was sucked down into the hole." after describing that the ship was undergoing the following. "with a terrible, twisted metal sound, the Dreadnought began sinking inwards. Metal twisted and cracked, the high-pitched shriek of distress audible from the air. Before their eyes, the ship sunk into the hole, tearing as more weight and more broken parts ended up sliding in."

Simon argues that this leaves open the possibility that the whole ship would squeeze into the hole and end up in the city below. I instead argue that my point was that only the mid-section of the ship (The "Central wreck", consisting of ruined parts and the distinct middle section of a Dreadnought) would fall down into the hole, citing how I described damage and how for a ship to entirely fall down a hole would require for the hole to be A) as large as the ship, meaning it would have fallen in immediately or B) requiring of the Dreadnough to break up, fold in two, or otherwise "Snap" to squeeze down the hole.

Considering all this, I say Omega Thrax on his command bridge could not give the self-destruct order, as he would be separated from the reactor - either because it's down in the hole and he's up on the surface, or because it otherwise had to snap to fit down the hole. I even described one of the Projector shots as tearing straight through the heart of the ship, which could just have easily cut the connection to the reactor.

Omnae argues that as he doesn't think I indicated I was firing on the Dreadnough until this turn (Saying "Well, you didn't specifically name the Dreadnought as a target, merely that you were attacking the enemy") then it is entirely possible it didn't sustain enough damage, and feels that as I wasn't specific enough in describing the damage done (Central wreck seemed explicit enough to me) then Omega is free to interpret his ship as miraculously still functioning enough to blow up.
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  • Posted On: Mar 1 2006 8:38pm
With dozens of warships appearing over each portal, not a shot was fired. Targets were certainly acquired - turrets turned, prepared to lay down unstoppable barrages of the heaviest Turbolaser fire on everything and anything around them that wasn't of the Coalition, but not a shot was fired.


I can only assuming these ships are emerging from hyperspace, which is my argument...