Crusade: Desolation of the Dragon (BDE/Almania System):OOC
  • Posted On: Dec 22 2003 1:26am
No.

Until you aggree to not use your three different types of missles or the staff makes a decision, the thread is on hold pending a staff decision

Once I asked them to address this issue. (Now I have asked)

I well make a response becuase my response well have no bearing on the combatm. But after that, until this is resolved by staff or we come to an understanding, this thread is on hold.
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  • Posted On: Dec 22 2003 1:31am
until you aggree to not use your three different types of missles


I did, I just told you, in their place the Ghoul will be equiped with regular PIM Den missles. Id say this is a gracious comprimise.
  • Posted On: Dec 22 2003 1:34am
Oh, sorry then.

Jumping between several screens is dissorienting.

Neccessary so that I do not lose my post again.

Very well then.
  • Posted On: Dec 22 2003 1:45am
Lastly there is the issue of your Micro-wave based weapon.

I aggree with the fact that it can pennitrate most matter but not shields

In all of my reading I find that microwaves are just a glorified aspect of the eletro-magnetic spectim.

As such they cannot penitrate an electro-magnetically generated field of energy without first overloading the electromagnetic field in question.

Deflecter shields, conventional shields,

"Magnetogravitic Shield
basic starship protection which keeps a ship from burning up while travelling at near-lightspeed in the hyperthin atmosphere of open space. (LCS)"

Star wars encyclopedia.

All such fields would stop your weapon first as they possess strong EM fields.

I aggree that your device is effective I dissagree on the effect.

It first has to over take energy and electromagnetically generated shields before it can penitrate a vessel.

I would ask that the DMB be considered a turbo-laser strengthed weapon against shields. But still hold its purpose of passing through matter onces shields are lost.
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  • Posted On: Dec 22 2003 1:55am
No go, the DMB was designed as it is. Deflector arrays are a product of Star Trek, conventional shields dont cover the array the DMB uses. Its all in the DMB description and was approved as such. There will be no changes made to it or how it operates. Magnetogravitic shields in no way mention that they stop microwave beams, it for one thing assumes theres a thin atmosphere in space and prevents a ship from heating up by accelerating at high speeds through it, like a space shuttle droping through the atmosphere. Now you could apply for a staff members intervention on the DMB, but it will not halt the thread as it is an already approved design, and will only alter the effects of the DMB in all threads after, since this has already started. See the Bird of Prey redesign and Shroud redesign for like rulings.
  • Posted On: Dec 22 2003 2:02am
There are no different wavelengths of Microwave technology. Only different levels of power accorded to them.

Microwave energy is Electro-Magnetic energy. And an EM energy cannot pass through another EM generated energy without first overloading or destroying the EM generated sheild. Electomaganetic fields can repell electromagnetic energy.

That may be the case but we have not entered combat. In the case of those rulings IC the weapons have already been used in competitive combat leading to said rulings. So the threads were able to go on becuase the techs were used in IC threads already.

Also note that all shrouds were banned from use during the course of the review process.

So no precident there the thread well be on hold then.
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  • Posted On: Dec 22 2003 2:09am
The Bird of Prey is a used president as they were accorded their deadly weakness when the error was found in the stated R&D stats, so there ya go. And the thread has been started, combat or not, so the current R&D stands for the DMB.

Particle Shield
a form of defensive shielding which destroys solid matter. It use an anti-protonic field to envelope its source. When solid matter comes in contact with the anti-protonic fields, the matter is annihilated. While these shields do not consume much energy, they are ineffective against lasers. (SW, SWSB)


anti-protonic field, not EM

Ray Shield
a defensive shield used to block or absorb light waves. They use electromagnetic and ultraviolet fields to capture light and drain its power. Thus, they can be used to protect a ship from lasers. They consume more power than particle shields, but serve a much different purpose. (SW, SWSB)


While it does have an electromagnetic field, this would in no way hinder a DMB, as the field is not an actual shield itself, but a manner in which to absorb light. Which the DMB is not.

No thread holding.
  • Posted On: Dec 22 2003 2:23am
Until stated on by the staff you cannot say anything is for sure in terms of holding.

BOP after the supposed weakness was found. Namely the lack of shields and IC they had been accorded to have shields by friends and foe alike. There being the difference. You have not used it in combat yet there is no problem with IC usage so there is no precident.

"anti-protonic field, not EM."

Can you prove that such an energy field can be created without EM priciples?

Unless you can then you have no case against it having an EM field.

My statement and issue:

"That Electro-magnetic energy cannot pass through a barrier of electromagnetic energy."

Unless you can supply proof from the realm of physical science. Then as far as my Knowledge goes what I stated is true.

considering that you do not aggree with me, I well hold my position until staff comments on the issue.

If a staff member does not respond then the thread is on hold until it is responded to.
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  • Posted On: Dec 22 2003 2:34am
and you cannot put a thread on hold, you have not that authority. I have been more than grascious, but it appears to me that your stalling for time. If you dont get into the posting of this thread then we will be going back on our friendly offer of 96 hours and back to the 72 hour rule. Now quit trying to put this thread off and roleplay.

As for proof
www.fnal.gov/pub/inquirin...hoton.html
www.fnal.gov/pub/inquirin...ticle.html


Anti-Proton fields are by definition, Anti-Proton fields, and not Electro-Magnetic. Dont even try to say otherwise.
  • Posted On: Dec 22 2003 2:53am
The thread would be on hold if we did not come to a conclusion by then and no staff member attended the issue (Check mechis three thread where staff did not respond in time) that is the case I want to address issues before we continue past 96 hours and I well have a post before 72 have passed.

So if you want us to continue then we best complete this before the time elapses or get a staff member to respond before then.

Anti-protonic fields in SW may have had EM elements is what I was referring to. You had no proof now you have proof.

Now I wait for proof on the EM sheilding element of other said shields or staff intervention.