Yeah, I figured that out after I posted. What I said remains true - Joren did ignore much of what Drayson wrote and put himself in the position he did. Drayson just took advantage of it.

EDIT: Joren posted while I was writing.

Actually, it leaves the GC in a much better position. The subfaction leaders don't have room to squabble cause if they do, the GC government (which is much stronger now) can put an end to it.

What I'm proposing is a reworking of the GC along the lines of the US government (or what it was supposed to be). While it's not the most efficient form of government, nor the most effective, it is a heck of a lot stronger than any other democracy out there (besides maybe Britain and Israel).

Look Wes, I will not take blame for Bilbringi. Alot of shit went down, and both Drayson and I ignored alot of each other's shit. It was equal. And a case could be made for godmoding on both sides.

But you are a member of TNO so naturally you feel superior and are biased.

First of all, I don't like the implications of that statement. While I am a member of TNO, I do not think that that automatically qualifies me for a bias. Personally, I think both of you take this stuff way too seriously and both need to cool off about it. I agree, there was a lot of stuff done on both sides. But my personal opinion is that flying through an interdictor field was pretty stupid. Either way, the thread is over, and let's not bring it up again. It'll only cause tempers to flare, and that is not a good thing, especially here on TRF.

Now, shall we return to Dolash's question? My opinion remains unchanged.

Dolash, this is not a decision you make by yourself, nor is it one you make by consulting the TRF community as a whole. The real people who matter are the Coalition members. Because we (along with you) are the ones who have built it.

Basically you and I need to talk. Tomorrow we might manage it, otherwise, sometime tuesday/wednesday would be good (I'm gone all weekend). AIM or MSN would be best, but if you want me to call a public phone booth somewhere in Canada (public phone so I don't have your number, I assume you don't want to give it to me), I can arrange that (unlimited long distance phone plan anywhere in Canada is sweet like that).

Your idea is faulty, because if you proclaim bankruptcy and refuse to pay your debts, most of which would be to construction companies who got rich by selling to both sides of the war, then you'll automatically guarantee you'll never get another construction contract again. And if it was to companies through which you were the primary client, they'd go under. So it's a lose lose scenario. You can't pay your debt, but if you just write them off, the companies that you owe money to won't ever deal with you anyway, so the result of your excusing your debt is nothing because no one will care/be around to care.

Not necessarily. You wouldn't be refusing to pay your debts. The government that accumulated those debts no longer exists, therefore it is unable to pay. It would be similar to Alexander Hamilton saying in the late 1700s that the debts of the states could not be charged to the Federal government or to the states because 1) the Federal government did not accumulate those debts, and 2) The states were no longer autonomous goverments. It worked out quite well, as I recall. Besides, the companies and countries that lost out needed the business of the new, thriving economy of the new U.S., so they continued dealing with them. It could work out the same way here.

Oh, and there's always the option of legislating more taxes. A stronger central government would have that ability.

Or, we could do something fun and say Chadd's Death Star pops out of a black hole and destroys all of the GC's fleets and it falls into the hands of the evil attacking furbies!



To amend what I said before... it would be bad if the GC fell and there was no lightside group to take it's place, but I am really all for the GC falling and a Rebellion forming.

The businesses don't need you, though. It would be like the continent of Africa declaring bankruptcy and refusing to pay their debts. No one would care since Africa, for all of it's self importance, is still just a bunch of black people in mud huts. The real economies that surround you will provide more then enough business for the companies you have scorned to turn a rosy red asshole in the general direction of this "strategy".

Perhaps a Rebellion forming out of GC ashes?

What I suggested. :)