See above.

I assumed our ships would automatically get in touch, sort of like how my Kubuntu automatically jumps on the nearest unsecured LAN.

You know what though, Kach? A programmer, or programmers, actually built Kubuntu. They didn't just assume it in to existence.

Ship movement (LOS): Both the US and Chinese can put a 1m Laser onto the cameras of a satellite in orbit moving at 8000 m/s (OV). Provided the ships are currently moving on a constant path (which mine are) Wes' fleet will have no problems sending LOS signals to me. At closer ranges even if a receiving capital ship is moving wildly it wouldn't be an issue. Since the lasers would be on a turret so they could rotate, the motion of the transmitting ship wouldn't matter.

Cool.

In the future I expect you will always use LOS communications then. Period. Because it's just so easy for you. Because it's just so secure. Because if we can do it on Earth, they can do it in Star Wars. Nevermind that in Star Wars they have the Force while our equivalent... oh, wait... we don't have one.

You've been around long enough Kach. You should know better then to say, "Well we can do it in real life, so..."

It parallels the atrition/stagnation of technology argument.

In this case it makes everyone, EVERYONE, who ever used a non-LOS communication network to send a message look like a fucking moron. It makes everyone who, before and during your time, has been 'jammed' and played it as being, oh I don't know, an effective way of limiting communication, look like a moron.

So, if that's the way you want to go with it... I will personally expect you to always, ALWAYS, utilize said communications as you've just made every other form of communication redundant.

CGT: General Fleet Upgrade IV. Ships ISD sized and larger have mini-CGTS, similar in size and cost to a coalition Graviton detector, though probably a bit more expensive.

Exactly what I expected.

Every ship has one, but you save your ass by calling them, "mini" and describing them as similar to a Graviton detector.

I'm not debating this.

I'm just saying it's gay.

However...

Do you know what a CGT does? Nobody really has a perfect idea

Great. So we (the community) will just go ahead and let whomever uses one (or dozens) make up whatever they want about how it works for them, in whatever thread, under whatever circumstances...

That's a good idea.

You don't have a "perfect" idea. Just a perfect outcome.

Snappy.

Actually, it occurred to me that Wes, without the LOS system, couldn't communicate with me and so I won't be able to get his though, meaning I won't be able to have my little conclusion about the shieldships, huh?

So that's going to go out later today, after I finish 120 or so pages of reading for Economics.

You put up a lot of resistances for a perfectly feasible idea (LOS). I never said it was perfect under all circumstances, but at the moment it's being utilized under ideal circumstances and there aren't going to be a lot of problems with that. Once in combat there will be.

"We don't have a perfect idea of what the CGT does, sir," says the techie.

"Oh, well then," says Kach. "Let's put one on each of our big ships just in case."

And we'll be vague and indeterminate about what they do in our R&D.

Which could come back to bite us in the ass when someone actually reads the document and says, "Hey, you didn't include this functionality and now you're making it up..."

But because everyone and their uncle has used a CGT in the past to detect a cloaked ship, we'll use it for a billion different reasons. Like here, today, where we're using a device described as being effective in detecting cloaked ships to map this gravitational shit storm.

CGT use = gay.

CGT is supposed to detect the gravitational presence of cloaked ships... I thought "Radar for gravity." Thus, my perception of what it does. Do you have a better idea? I'm pretty sure my view is probably the most common one because it's straightforward and makes sense.

What's that,

No?

Put up or stfu.

For future reference, "I didn't read any of this crap, but here's what I think" isn't the best way to enter a thread.


And because I don't want to copy my first post and paste it here so maybe you'll read it, let me find a new way to say something you should have already read (for the record, I don't want to copy and past it because I shouldn't have to copy and paste it; see opening statement if you need further clarification):

There is no NASA in Star Wars, so it doesn't really matter what they can do.

If you want to write about the real world, start a blog. If you want to write about Star Wars, then NASA doesn't exist and there is no such thing as the United States of America or the People's Republic of China.

Edit: grumble grumble.

Beff beat me to it.

Kach

You put up a lot of resistances for a perfectly feasible idea (LOS). I never said it was perfect under all circumstances, but at the moment it's being utilized under ideal circumstances and there aren't going to be a lot of problems with that. Once in combat there will be.

Ahnk

I've never blocked line of sight, but it's not as fast or capable as standard data transmissions

I'm resisting the idea of you ABUSING a perfectly feasible, though limited concept.

And I'm betting...

all of my ships are manipulating, modifying, or creating gravity in some way

... will be rendered moot in a master-stroke of 'moding by three, stupid, little letters you will additionally abuse; CGT.

Also: If a CGT is supposed to detect the tiny amounts of gravity from a cloaked ship, then wouldn't it kinda explode trying to detect gravity wells?

Or if its more a 'radar' thing that doesn't give levels and just blips, wouldn't you just see a full field of 'Yep. There's gravity out there alright'?

Let me try again:

From Wookieepedia, the Star Wars wiki:

A crystal gravfield trap (CGT) was a rare and expensive type of sensor that used a synthetic crystal grid to detect and identify fluctuations in the local gravity field. They could be blocked by the presence of mass, not being able to detect a ship on the far side of a planet due to its mass.

Just a thought, but: a whole fleet of ships, all giving off their own artificially generated gravity fields, all inside of multiple interdictor fields, might be a little difficult for a "mini" CGT to sift through.


Edit: OMG

Irtar beat me to it.

You forgot the planet, Smarts.


I bet Coruscant has some mass.



But we have to ignore all this, because if we don't the bulk of Kach's post is bunk.


It's a Kach 22.


HAHA!