Wes; is not everything that is, was and ever shall be, by your faith/religion, a miracle of god?
So, in the case of failure or success; would not the result of this election also be the will of god?
Your statement confuses me...
... unless of course it was ment to be a satire in which case does this not violate one of Christianities writs that gods name shall not be taken in vain?
Didn't those who vote "no" to socialized healthcare vote "yes" to socialized banking and home mortages? I mean, if it's good enough for our banks (and the miracle by which we stave off economic ruin in the short term), why can't it be good enough for our healthcare?
Socialism is not Communism just like extreme Nationalism is not exactly patriotism, IMO.
The only thing that really frightens me with Obama being in office is the up and coming 25% budget cut to the entire military and intelligence services.
To Beff: Yes and no. I believe that man has a free will, and that yes, Obama's election somehow fits into the plan of God. However, America itself was built on principles that Obama claims to disagree with. That is the America I am talking about, the America intended by the founders. As a strict constructionist regarding the Constitution, and one who believes that the founders' intent is important in determining how it should be interpreted, I fear for what Obama might do to the nation and the principles on which it was founded. Since Obama claims to be opposed to those principles, it will be a miracle of God if that America survives.
To Simon: Well, I voted, or rather would have voted, no to all three. I hated the bailout plan, and fully believe that those who make bad decisions should live with the consequences of those decisions. If you spend beyond your means, and you get burned for it, then you got burned. That's your problem, not the government's.
Wes: If people make decisions and have to live with them, and you support that ideal set, then America gets to live with Obama for better or worse.
The America of today is not the America your founders envisioned. Heck, one of the reasons they rebelled against Britain was because they didn't want a system where they get bills at credit to a central bank. Guess what you've got?
I'm guessing since almost all of them owned slaves they wouldn't be fans of this all men created equal thing and so forth.
And since they came from a different time when women were considered vastly inferior they'd disapprove of any woman holding a position of power.
Wes, what I'm saying is stop talking about 'The America envisioned by the Founders' since that America is two hundred years old and had no idea what the modern world would be like. It was a vision made in a time with less ability to communicate, most of the population couldn't read, and they were trying to escape the most powerful nation in the world. The global dynamic has changed, and though you may seek to maintain some principals, they're not the same. To presume to think like them in this entirely new world is either arrogance or ignorance.
The best you can do is what America needs based on its circumstances and the world around it. Todays America is despised around the world, and just took a heavy blow leaving many to wonder if America will be the economic super power once the dust settles.
And guess what? It needs someone like Obama that's viewed as a 'Change Reboot' so that other nations in the world won't just think you're a bunch of self-centred dicks.
Yes, good riddance to the thousands of military personnel who will lose their jobs because of the cut funding, of the thousands more who will no longer be able to get a free education through the military and be able to go on and lead successful careers and provide for their families.
Because we all know that if the leader of nation decides to invade another country, it's the military and not the leader that should be punished... :ohwell
