I Purchased A Yaris
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  • Posted On: Mar 25 2007 3:01am
Acura CL 3.2 & TL 3.2

Good cars, for what it's worth. In that price range I assume you're looking at late ninties era? Might be some trouble with the automatic transmissions, I seem to recall some talk of that. Otherwise, stellar reliability and decent performance.

Audi A4 & A6

Like any German brand, electronics are a known issue as is expense of repairs. Are you looking at the Quattro versions, or FWD? Versus the BMWs, the Bimmers will be a lot more fun to drive. I wouldn't bother with the FWD Audis - go Quattro or go home.

BMW 3 & 5 series

The 3 and/or 5 series is another of those cars I will one day own... I've been pondering an older one of these two as well, but they're a bit out of my price range without a lot of effort. Still, a good example will be an amazing car. 3 is lighter and more fun to drive, the 5 is bigger and more luxurious, so take your pick. Do remember: the more electronic gadgets, the more things to go wrong. IIRC the power window regulator in these cars (a known issue) is somewhere in the range of ~$150.

Lexus ES 300 & GS 300

Meh... FWD, Toyota based, boring. But reliable as the sun and pretty nice, too. But boring.

Mazda Protege5, Mazda6, & Mazda Millenia

Protege5 is a stellar car, lots of power and it only came fully loaded. Not quite up to par with Civic/Corolla in reliability and fuel consumption, but by no means poor in either category. The P5 is actually one of my favorite cars, and were to go FWD again it would definately be on my list. The 6 you won't find in this price range. :P If you mean the 626... go with the P5. The Millenia, though, actually offers pretty good value for money used, and was a decent car.

Mitsubishi Galant & Mitsubishi Lancer

I'm not sure what the dealer network is like in the States, up here it's pretty poor, so buying a Mitsu is a gamble. If you find it used for cheap, with warranty, it's worth the look. But there's no compelling reason to chose on over the Protege or something better.

Volkswagon Jetta & Passat

Decent cars - the TDI offers incredible fuel mileage. There are many people that will tell you that German cars offer a very different drive than Japanese ones - they're heavier, more solid, etc. Again, some electrical problems, but if you like the car, don't let that stop you.


Some other cars to think about:

Toyota Echo - the predecessor to the Yaris, decently fun to drive and very cheap now. Sips the go juice, too.

Pontiac Sunfire/Chevrolet Cavalier - Ugly as sin, but cheap to run and repair and cheap as dirt to buy.

Ford Focus - decently fun to drive, and available cheap because it's a Ford. Less reliable than the Japanese cars, though.
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  • Posted On: Mar 25 2007 3:19am
My mom has an A6 Allroad. It does alright. She had to get a lot of work on the suspension a while back thouhg. Audi's get shit gas mileage though, considering they use premium.
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  • Posted On: Mar 25 2007 3:20am
I have a car.

It is red.

It goes vroom when I push the pedal down.
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  • Posted On: Mar 25 2007 3:41am
My uncle had a BMW and he sold it i think because of repair costs, but everytime i was in it it was a great ride.
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  • Posted On: Mar 25 2007 3:50am
I found a couple Mazda6s for 11ish.

I'm only looking in the Indy area because I'm buying when I go home on leave to drive back to GA, but here's an example:

Mazda6
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  • Posted On: Mar 25 2007 3:52am
My roommates step-father purchased a Ronan edition S8 from Audy. I wet myself. I still wet myself. Ronin was such an eye-opener, for me. I still get a little aroused when I hear a Pugeot 206 pushing smoke.
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  • Posted On: Mar 25 2007 3:57am
Today; stuck in traffic. Gonna be late. Open roads, if I go the other way but I'm stuck. Or am I? Yaris turns in its own length, making the over-size sedan owners in front and behind of me stop and stare. Cut the parking lot, and freedom. All in gears 1 and 2 with tires squeaking happily.
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  • Posted On: Mar 25 2007 4:07am
It is a teeny little thing isn't it?
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  • Posted On: Mar 25 2007 4:13am

RE: Miata. I'm considering an NA when I get home for the summer. The allure of top-down driving is getting to me... the other option at this point is the 94 Mustang V6, but I think the Mazda is a better package for me. I like the small/light more so than the American muscle...
Go V8 or go home. V6 Mustang means you get all of the compromise with none of the V8. The Miata is head and shoulders a better car than a V6 Mustang. Get a 94+, 94 and 95 have the best combination of engine, diffs and weight for the NA, but there is nothing wrong with the later ones. Call Mazda with the VIN and they'll tell you if it has a limited slip differential. I did that about 30 times before I bought my 99.

Most of Demo's rundown is correct, but I'll elaborate on a few things.

Nissan was neglected, so I'll give a rundown.

240SX - if not abused, absolutely solid. KA24DE power plant, nothing really goes wrong with them.

200SX/Sentra - Good cars, good motors, cheap to fix if anything goes wrong.

Altima - 1st and 2nd gen come with the bulletproof KA24DE twincam 4 cyl. Unremarkable, cheap to fix transportation with acceptable gas mileage and good get up and go for what it is. 2002-2006- Avoid the 02s, the later ones are fine, and the V6 is downright quick.

Maxima - 95-99. Avoid the 95s, they have some weird issues. The later ones are AWESOME with a 5 speed manual. A bit hard to work on, but no reliability issues. Fun!

2000-2003 - Stick to the 02-03, available with the VQ35DE, a stellar motor. Very fast. Very reliable.

Acura CL 3.2 & TL 3.2

Good cars, for what it's worth. In that price range I assume you're looking at late ninties era? Might be some trouble with the automatic transmissions, I seem to recall some talk of that. Otherwise, stellar reliability and decent performance.
2000-2005 autos like to shit themselves, covered under recall, AFAIK. Buy with a manual anyway, it's an Acura/Honda, the manual is great. Everything else is very solid. FWD, kind of heavy, though.


Audi A4 & A6

Like any German brand, electronics are a known issue as is expense of repairs. Are you looking at the Quattro versions, or FWD? Versus the BMWs, the Bimmers will be a lot more fun to drive. I wouldn't bother with the FWD Audis - go Quattro or go home.
Awful reliability, horrid maintenance costs IF the car goes bad. Some hold together for a decade. It's a crapshoot.

BMW 3 & 5 series

The 3 and/or 5 series is another of those cars I will one day own... I've been pondering an older one of these two as well, but they're a bit out of my price range without a lot of effort. Still, a good example will be an amazing car. 3 is lighter and more fun to drive, the 5 is bigger and more luxurious, so take your pick. Do remember: the more electronic gadgets, the more things to go wrong. IIRC the power window regulator in these cars (a known issue) is somewhere in the range of ~$150.
The BMW straight six is a great motor, most of the issues, if any, will be electrical. Small problem with the water pump. If it's over 80k and hasn't been changed, change it. Very solid cars, aside from a somewhat rare rear subframe problem on the E36.


Mazda Protege5, Mazda6, & Mazda Millenia

Protege5 is a stellar car, lots of power and it only came fully loaded. Not quite up to par with Civic/Corolla in reliability and fuel consumption, but by no means poor in either category. The P5 is actually one of my favorite cars, and were to go FWD again it would definately be on my list. The 6 you won't find in this price range. If you mean the 626... go with the P5. The Millenia, though, actually offers pretty good value for money used, and was a decent car.
I agree. Mazda's piston cars are the most underrated in North America. Avoid the supercharge Millenia with the more exotic engine.


Mitsubishi Galant & Mitsubishi Lancer

I'm not sure what the dealer network is like in the States, up here it's pretty poor, so buying a Mitsu is a gamble. If you find it used for cheap, with warranty, it's worth the look. But there's no compelling reason to chose on over the Protege or something better.
They can be very solid cars if the regular stuff is done, but it seems that most people who buy them neglect them horribly. :(


Volkswagon Jetta & Passat

Decent cars - the TDI offers incredible fuel mileage. There are many people that will tell you that German cars offer a very different drive than Japanese ones - they're heavier, more solid, etc. Again, some electrical problems, but if you like the car, don't let that stop you.
All of the above is correct IF ONLY REFERENCING THE TDI. The 2.0 NA is a fucking worthless motor - avoid it at all costs. Coil packs like to die on the 1.8T, along with numerous window regulators and gadgets. 90-2005 VWs are, with the exception of the TDIs, iffy at best.

Pontiac Sunfire/Chevrolet Cavalier - Ugly as sin, but cheap to run and repair and cheap as dirt to buy.
Good thing it's cheap to repair, because these cars are trash and will break a lot usually. Avoid.
Ford Focus - decently fun to drive, and available cheap because it's a Ford. Less reliable than the Japanese cars, though.
Underrated for the 2002+, avoid earlier models. Handles very, very well and can be fun.
Toyota Echo - the predecessor to the Yaris, decently fun to drive and very cheap now. Sips the go juice, too.
Ugly but great otherwise. Dirt cheap to run, get the manual if you can to get the most from the motor.
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  • Posted On: Mar 25 2007 4:25am
Morgan Knows like everything about anything