This is highly unrealistic. Because if you can do this, then your shipyards would have been destroyed long ago. This was the first post of anyone firing on these ships, and your entire fleet was not firing on them, because you delt other insane damages to lots of other ships.

Actually, this is the second or this post of them being fired on. Check Tractha's earlier damages - half of the force Lup sent close in to the yards was engaging those two ships, and another Black Fleet ship joined them to finish them off.

But they're not yet destroyed, either.

This of course is realistic and I have no problems over it. Howeverm, both you and Trachta posted an ASD destroyed. Unfortunately, there is only one ASD present at the battle, so only one has been destroyed.

Clearly. The damages in my post is the complete listing from both our posts.

Unfortunately, this is completely untrue. It takes an entiere Death Sar's complement of tractor beams to be able to ensare even one Star Destroyer.

You have no Death Star and therefore cannot do this to sixteen ships.

I assume the bit your referring to is the stated ability of the Death Star to reel ships in. But there are two major flaws in your agument: first, that your ships are not being physically moved, simply preventing from moving. Secondly, that your ships are considerably smaller than an ISD.

I would refer you to the Thrawn trilogy, where an Imperail Star Destroyer was able to hold in place an Assault Frigate using its tractor beams.

Shields down on every single ship, eh?

Your gunners must have extrordinary good aim. Unfortunately, this is not true since none of my ships are caught in a tractor beam, and all of my ships are underneath the shipyards.

They're the best in the Empire. Whether your ships are caught in tractor beams or not is irrelevent - that's hardly the determining factor in missile strikes. Over 200 warheads were fired at each of your craft - even assuming 50% of them were intercepted, that's still enough power to bring down the shields of your relitively lightly shielded ships.

Likewise, positioning is irrevelent since the fighters are on the same plane, and attained targetting locks before shooting.

Oh and Hapan Battle Dragons have no missiles.

*shrug*

Lup told me they did. But it hardly matters, since the ASD was outgunned by its attackers regardless.

first, that your ships are not being physically moved, simply preventing from moving. Secondly, that your ships are considerably smaller than an ISD.

Than if my ships were to move away, then your ships would be pulled along with them, it would be the reverse of "reeling them in". They are indeed, but I would think it would take more tractor beams on all of your ships combined to hold my ships like that. That is unrealistic, sorry.

The reverse of "reeling them in" would be pushing them away. And yes, if my ships were completely shut down you would be able to drag them - but my ships, naturally, are resisting such an action.

The end result is that your trapped in the beams.

Which you cannot do. It takes more tractor beams than you have to hold all of my ships (especially the fast-moving Birds of Prey, which are moving around the yards, never staying in one place and therefore would be too hard to capture)



I will post today. Nice try at god moding.

The irony of that statement is sickening.

1) You assume to treat the tractor beams as if they have zero effect at all. That's rediculous - even assuming they couldn't mantain a flawless hold, you can't simply say "Oh, look. That's nice. Luckily, they have no effect at all.

2) We have a rule here that requires mass firings of missiles to be done over two posts. Not one. Nice try at god moding.

3) Wow... isn't it convient that your soldiers happened to be in spacesuits, and happened to have explosives with them, and happened to get off the Praetor in time to not be killed by the explosion of the main reactor!

Oh, goody. More party favours!

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Minutes later, one-hundred eight escape pods, floating just underneath the unshielded yards, moved upwards with their thrusters. The thirty-eight pods he had chosen were part of the troop complement of the Praetor and they carred spacesuits. All of them had explosives with them as well, in case they were captured... and... well... so the enemy would not take them alive.<hr></blockquote>

Wow! More magic? I already pointed this out, but there you go. Your troops happened to get into pods, happened to be in complete spacesuits, and happened to have explosives with them?

The ASD went critical in about thirty seconds. Unless your crews usually run around in full spacesuits, with explosives strapped across their chests like @#%$ Rambo, then this @#%$ isn't going to fly.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>"ORS forces, this is Admiral Drox, cease fire on quadrants four-through eight and concentrate fire on yards three and four." He ordered through the comlink. All of the remaining Sovereignty ships turned and retreated further back, requireing the Imperial forces to follow to heep up their attacks. The Birds of Prey, along with the Bakura class destroyers moved forward just as the Imperial tractor beams attempted to capture the ships. Unfortunately, their were far too few tractor beams to actually hold the ORS ships back as each turned their engine power to max capacity.<hr></blockquote>

So we're treating weapons as if they have no effect at all, now? Awesome! Let's just ignore the effects of your weapons from now on, then, shall we?

Bullshit. Your ships are no @#%$ magical, Griff, whatever you might like to think. Tractor beams will have an effect on them - and since the ISDs and RSDs are twice their size and have far more power inherent in them, your ships aren't dancing.

You didn't even bother to break the lock, did you?

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>As the rest of the ORS ships descended upon the last two yards (MC3-MC4), the pods reached the other two yards (MC1-MC2). Out of each pod came two spacesuit troopers, both carrying heavy explosives. All the troopers spread out and infiltrated the yards at damage points caused by ORS fire and went deep into each yard.<hr></blockquote>

Convience and magic aside, that was damn fast. They launched, escaped their pods, got into the yards, and set their explosives - all in one paragraph?

This wasn't something that was planned out in advance - this was a spur of the moment plan, made up on the spot with no real tactical briefing.

Magic!


<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Each of them set an explosive deep into the yard and then made their way out. Drox watched anxiously as they did so, and two of his own personal guard (whom he had ordered out to assist) made their way back to the pod.<hr></blockquote>

And now they're out again! More magic?

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>As one of the troopers made it back to a pod a few dozen meters away from Drox, the Admiral contacted him, "What is the time on your detonators?" He asked.

"One minute thirty seconds. We need to get the hell out of here." The pod responded.

Drox glanced back to the yard, where one of his personal guards had finished and was making his way back to the pod. Drox's hands clenched the steering stick of the pod, ready to pull away.<hr></blockquote>

Awesome! Say goodbye to Drox - he's dead. You just opened an escape pod door into the vacuum. Your Admiral buddy is drifting like a bloody iciicle about now.

"Thirty seconds!" The pod commander said through the comm.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Suddenly, a new voice came through the audio pickup, "Sovereignty forces. This is the Allegiance-class Star Destroyer Timeless. We are here to assist."

"This is Captain Idan of the Bakura-class Destroyer Sovereign Solace. We welcome you."<hr></blockquote>


<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Allegiance-class Star Destroyer Timeless...


Captain Olus peered intently at the battle readout and sensor scan. One Venerator heavily damaged... shipyards heavily damaged...

Where is the Praetor? He thought. The ASD was supposed to be here, leading the attack...

"Sir, I am picking up a debris field, it is the Praetor, sir." His second in command, Commander Marks said.

"Order Slicer Wing to go ahead and destroy the Venerator. Load missile tubes and head for the Venerator as well." Olus said.

"Shields up and lets go."<hr></blockquote>

Point out where these ships entered the system. They were listed as reinforcements some time ago - as a second set of reinforcements (again, with the grayness).

They were never posted as entering the system... And! Even assuming they were able to, they still managed to cross the entire planetary body in one paragraph?

Magic!

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<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>"Slicer Wing, form up with your respective sqaudrons. Raise shields and load missile tubes. All squadrons descend upon Target designated Red."

Wing Commander Colonel Artus of Slicer Wing looked to the left and right of his X-Wing canopy. All two hundred and eighty-eighty fighters formed up in twenty-four sqaudrons. In one massive arrowhead formation they gunned their engines and easily passed the distance and came within missile range of the stricken Venerator.

"Ready....fire!" He shouted. And at his order over five hundred proton torpdoes lanced out, crossing the distance.

They had one target: Barbarossa II

All five hundred hit the ship, give or take a few for most of the weapons on the ship had been destroyed by previous ORS forces.<hr></blockquote>

Unfortunately for you, not one missile has been fired. Why? This is called a mass firing, and such firings require at least two posts to accomplish.

You have all of one post... not good enough.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The ship broke apart easily, for it's hull integrity was down to about nothing now, into several pieces. Then the X-Wings descended upon the pieces, firing their lasers, breaking apart the ship further, and finally, obliterating it. After that, the X-Wings retreated to screen formation with the Timeless , which came in at full speed and did not slow. The ship angled away from the Imperial formation and placed the shipyards between it and the Imperials, so when it closed the distance, it would be on the other side of the yards.

As the Barbarossa II clashed into scattered pieces, the two shipyards that had been laden with explosives, then exploded, breaking apart those as well, destroying them. The ORS forces, continued to fire at the remaining two yards.

The Bakura Destroyers moved forward, between the yards, out of the way of Imperial weapons. The Birds of Prey followed and all ORS forces continued their onslaught against the two yards, which started to break apart as well.<hr></blockquote>

All bullshit, for the above reasons and more.

I have nothing to say to you, for whatever I say will be in vain. Words go right through your head, much like oxygen.

And you must understand where I am coming from. If I had stretched anything out to two posts, you would have posted some equally shitty post saying you "found" the explosives. Or "intercepted" the missiles.

And the mass firing thing, only an insane commander would enter a battle without missiles loaded, and X-Wings do not require missile loading.

Mass firing requires two posts, Griff. Whether you call the first post a loading post or a targeting post, or a picking-my-nose post, it takes two posts.

You planted those explosives far too fast.

Tractor beams would snag your ships. Just because the ships are fast, they wouldn't be able to out-power the tractors. Big ships snag small ships - small ships stop, big ships don't.

There's a difference between speed and power.

Understood. But he is using Hapan Battle Dragons, which are smaller than my ships. He has no big ships out there- except one or two Reigns.

Yeah, Griff. Sure.

Two Reign Class Dtar Destroyers, four Imperator Class Star Destroyers, two Victory Class Star Destroyers, and one Archangel Star Destroyer. Plus the six Battle Dragons you mentioned.

And again, mass missile firings require two posts, regardless. I don't care if itis "insane", that's the rule, and you failed to abide by it.

And yes, your oh-so-convient explosives were planted far to fast.