I see. Good day, then.
Right-wing American groups try to ban Palme d'Or winning Fahrenheit 9/11...
Yeah, Kas. Debating isn't your thing. Go kill some stuff with your guns.
No, it's not that. It's that talking to Isstal is like talking to a brick. He didn't address the issue, at all.
I don't debate with people who repeatadly dodge the issues.
I don't debate with people who repeatadly dodge the issues.
No, Kas, that's bullshit because you're dodging the issue.
Thet sounds to me like Heston buried himself. Moores splicing of the speech was for time. Was it dishonest and slanderous? Since he published the whole speech on his website linked ironically in his credits, no. It was editted for postterity.
People shouldn't walk away from a movie like Bowling for Columbine nodding their heads. They should look at it as one prespective. The counterperspective to that which is being pitched by the television media.
Moore editting his speech doesn't change the fact that Heston is an asshole. But you don't see it that way, because you like guns.
Thet sounds to me like Heston buried himself. Moores splicing of the speech was for time. Was it dishonest and slanderous? Since he published the whole speech on his website linked ironically in his credits, no. It was editted for postterity.
People shouldn't walk away from a movie like Bowling for Columbine nodding their heads. They should look at it as one prespective. The counterperspective to that which is being pitched by the television media.
Moore editting his speech doesn't change the fact that Heston is an asshole. But you don't see it that way, because you like guns.
I guess we have different ideals of honesty then. I find Moore's editing highly dishonest, yet you are completely cool with it.
I won't think about that too much, because then something will come up and I'll never get to bed.
I won't think about that too much, because then something will come up and I'll never get to bed.
The fact that the speeches went in as heavilly editted to Moores favor, does not change the fact that Heston said those things. A minor patriotic masturbation does not change the fact that he is an insensitive arms dealer.
I could see the edits in the speech(es) of Heston. That didn't make him look too bad in my opinion; I could tell Moore did some creative editing.
It was when Heston, in the interview later with Moore, referred to the Old White Guys who Created America, and how he keeps loaded guns for protection, while at the same time admitting he feels no personal danger, that I realized he was an ass.
It was when Heston, in the interview later with Moore, referred to the Old White Guys who Created America, and how he keeps loaded guns for protection, while at the same time admitting he feels no personal danger, that I realized he was an ass.
*Cracks fingers* Ok, time to get to work.
1. I have a lot of reasons not like like Charlton Heston. The first is indeed his "Don't come here" thing, and after comparing the whole speech to that snippet, I don't really care that he edited it, because the rest is pointless. Those first two lines have barbs in them. The way he says "Don't come here? We're already here!" That makes any "We must shoulder the grief" line useless. Besides, just holding a gun-rally - even with the difficulty of cancelling evident - after such a disaster was wrong. If he really wanted to show respect, he could have cancelled the rally and just gone to Littleton to offer his condolences. But no, the rally he held, no matter how much apoligizing he added during it, was one in favour of gun-ownership shortly after kids got guns and shot up a school.
2. There is another reason to dislike Charlton, that second rally he held. After the negative feedback he got from the first, does he have any real excuse to do this again? But he did. Now I don't care what he said and how much he apoligized, he was promoting gun-ownership in a town where that cost a life.
3. The last, and best reason to dislike Charlton is at the end. Moore got his appointment a day in advance, so he wasn't ambushing Charlton or anything. His questions might have been a bit provocative, but after everything he's filmed and shown, he has a right to be, he wants answers from the top gun-promoter to see if he can justify or explain the truths revealed, so he has to be pointed and quick with his questions. But Charlton wouldn't have any of that. He ignored Moore, wouldn't look at the dead girls' picture. He couldn't answer his questions.
There.
1. I already addressed it. It's not 'difficulty in canceling' it is 'impossibility in canceling'.
2. Second rally he held? Explain, Link, etc? As far as I know the NRA has rally's all over the place.
3. The guy has Alzheimer's disease, Dolash.
2. Second rally he held? Explain, Link, etc? As far as I know the NRA has rally's all over the place.
3. The guy has Alzheimer's disease, Dolash.
Kas, it is not impossible to cancel NRA meetings. It's just unprofitable.