Australia - a question
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  • Posted On: Jul 28 2005 6:05am
i guess that was a poor example.

anyway, i just finished eating some short-ribs and red-rice. so now i think i'll tear telan a forth asshole.

Tell me Recon just how ignorant are you that you cannot tell fact from fiction. Your response is thusly ignored. You have used no facts save your unyielding peasant-like attitude towards anything not your own. Perhaps it is just as well - -had you grown up in Russian you might have been an ardent Communist just as you are an ardent Anarchist.
i dont know how you can prove your eariler post... but everything i have stated has been true to a tee. this one has to be my favorite:

You have used no facts save your unyielding peasant-like attitude towards anything not your own.

im sorry. i forgot your the Sir Telan, King of England. forgive, for i am just a peasant.

Perhaps it is just as well - -had you grown up in Russian you might have been an ardent Communist just as you are an ardent Anarchist.

maybe. i really dont know, i never grew up in 'russian'. "Ardent Anarchist"? have you been reading anything i wrote??? this is the very thing i have been against. let me speak in the language that Sir Telan will understand...

you see, majesty your querulous attitude is something i find insulting. good sir, your words have been nothing more then oppresive sirens going off like an ambulence in my head. your ideals of grandure as a communist or monarchy state has been somewhat bothersome to me. i believe in the right to a democratic government in which all sides of society are allowed to speak... not only the intelligent of society.

in conclusion your majesty, god save the queen.

come back when your ready you little punk.
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  • Posted On: Jul 28 2005 4:07pm
I have little time to waste defending my ideals agfainst your rather amateurish insults and singular way of thinking. I will however put you in your place once and for all.

Democracy as things stand now are exactly as I said: the politicians elected spend their time in office trying to get elected again. None of them has done anything that would further goals that might be the best for the people even if it means angering the people. A case in point - the United States has one language - English. The state of Pennsylvania voted in 1736 to keep said language as its own (instead of German, as it had been). Now, instead of commanding that those who move here learn said language the country is adapting instead of remaining resilient. Signs are now printed in Spanish, wasting valuable time money and space. Does any politician come out against it - -no, because it might anger those who would keep him in office.

Second case in point - -the technology exists for the mass production and sale of fuel efficienct automobiles. Has the government commanded that production of vehciles that get less than 20 mpg halt? No. Have they ordered that all vehicles be fitted with pollution-reducing equipment (ie trucks) - no. Why? Because the manufacturuers and the gasoline companies have purchased their power and pay well to maintain. Dozens of politicians are on their payrolls and as such, oil prices rise and large vehciles such as SUVs are sold to people who do not use them a opposed to mini-vans which would be more fuel efficient and serve thge same purpose.

The simple fact of the matter is that democracy cannot work as it allows capitalism and greed to reign. This is fact - -not opinion. Dispute is irrelevant, Rekon.

Darwin put the study of Natural Selection onto a scientific stage, showing that Nature in her glory and omnipotence allows only the strong to survive. Hence why in herds the weak and slow and infirm are picked off first. In the world today, patients that are terminally ill are allowed to suffer (ie Terri Sheivo), wasting money and resources and more importantly ALLOWING HER TO SUFFER. In the world of democracy, medical proceedures that would terminate the life of someone who is dying, thus saving them an excrutiating demise, are outlaed (Dk. Kevokian). I ask how.

In democracy, the guilty are allowed to walk free. Case in point - while on duty I arrested a man who had severly beaten his wife. He was then charged and convicted and sent to prison. In prison he attacked a guard and was sent into solitary confinement. He was not fed for a day. He sued the prison and won, forcing them toi pay five million dollar to an inmate, a criminal!!! And what is more, as part of the county's deal with him, he has been parolled prematurely after serving barely six months and has quite a fortune to spend. This is justice???

Fact: I was born in Germany, a loyal son of the Fatherland. I was raised as an aristocrat and raised to believe in my people just as you believe in yours. I will defend them to the last, same as you would your own. I believe that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

I believe firmly that without authority, and without the ability to act ruthlessly and immediately, no order can be maintained. When as an officer I arrive on scene now and a man is beating his wife I have no power to shoot him. In an autocratic state I would. If I arrive on scene and see a man raping a girl, I cannot shoot him. In an autocratic state I could. If I arrive on scene and see a drunk drive alive that has just killed a family of four, I cannot tie him to a pole and test my shot gun. In an autocratic state I could.

I say that democracy is not tought enough on criminals, centered on greed, and kept alive by the perseuction of the minorities just the same as any autocratic state. However, in an autocratic state true justice would be metted out more often. True justice is people getting what they deserve for their crime - -rapistist being castrated brutally, murders being murdered, theives having their property approproated.

Justice is not watching the guilty laugh at the court because a miranda warning missed a word or he was handled too roughly by the police after shooting two of our comrades. Simply put - -the code of Hammaurabi.

Recon, you are the one who needs help. I truly find your hatred amusing because you are so devoted to the pursuit of chaos. The amusing part is - -you are too fanatical to see through the shroud you have wrapped yourself up in. The difference between you and I is that I am willing to make sacrifices for an ordered society - -you want your cake and to eat it, too.
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  • Posted On: Jul 28 2005 4:26pm
Uhh.... guys....



Star Wars Message Board?
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  • Posted On: Jul 28 2005 4:46pm
Well... should we intervene or let them keep going?
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  • Posted On: Jul 28 2005 5:02pm
I don't know, Grev....

After all, World War Two ended sixty years ago...
Rac
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  • Posted On: Jul 28 2005 5:04pm
well this ain`t about world war II anymore, but still yea.....it was over 60 years ago, but it doesn`t mean people can`t talk about it
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  • Posted On: Jul 29 2005 12:32am
telan. you pretty much just re-used your same words in this thread for that post. oh well.

its clear that whatever anyone says to your holyness your still going to believe in whatever the german empire has conjured up. as for me, i'll take my free will and yes... i will have my cake and eat it to.

most of what i said if not all is fact. your basing your 'no' to democracy on the fact that you 'supposedly' arrested a rapist? it makes me wonder what a wonderful world we live in where people like you can walk around.

point. i never said democracy is perfect, however it is the best form of government in this day and age.

The difference between you and I is that I am willing to make sacrifices for an ordered society

there is a bigger difference between you and i. your willing to be ruled by someone like hitler... i on the other hand am not. so with that, i bid you goodbye.

god save the queen.
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  • Posted On: Jul 29 2005 2:02am
I work in law enforcement, hence my case-reference. You i imagine do not attend a job where you lay your life on the line for the preservation of order. So be it.

No - -most of your argument was not fact, most of it was opinion respun by you from the Ami propogangda machine.



We have certainly strayed from my original intention for this thread, thank you Herr Rkon for doing so. Now we return. Do any of you Australians know what is required to become a police officer in DOWn Under?
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  • Posted On: Jul 29 2005 3:41am
okay.