wow... Recon actually did research. :p

no.

i just happen to like politics.

seldom will you see me bust out.

Finally -- a debate on an intellectual level. Let us look solely at America for a moment.

The Founding Fathers are they are so reveredly called were members of the Intelligentsia. Their mission was to create a republic - -not a democracy. In it they made provisions that only members of a higher class could have any decision making power. The members of the Intelligentsia were/are those most capable of making decisions best suited for qhat the people need - -not always what the people want. Over time, people began to erode this concept and make it so that every person would have a say - -the very rabble these leaders were trying to keep from ruining their country now had power at their fingertips. From there America declined. The masses voted in politicians who now, no matter how educated, voted not on what was best for the people but voted for what their people wanted - - the quest to remain in office overrid any oath or sense of a higher duty to the common good.

Democracy is chaos because it allows the masses to rule. The masses are uneducated and, as we have seen, rule of the mob is never just or legal. The masses burned books in Germany and killed their brethren simply because of religion simply because a charistmatic leader - -elected democraticly btw - - told them to. What is to stop America from launching its own subjugation of say - gays? They have already tolerated hate crimes and made the actions of my fellows illegal re: marriage. America now is little different from germany and your own fervor blinds you of that fact.

As for my beliefs, they are my own. I believe in Monarchy yes. Has it had its share of horrible rulers? Yes. Then we look at George II and Victoria on England, Friederich III and Friederick Wilhelm of Germany/Prussia, Alexander III of Russia, Louis XIV of France - -all leaders that did wonderful things. Under democracy they would never have been possible.

Let us not forget that under democracy, murders are condoned and no one man has the power to decide the fate of the guilty. In a democracy, courts take long times to decide guilt and the wronged are tormented - -the guilty are released on a technicality. Hundreds are allowed to go free so that one innocent is never incarcerated. What happened to good of the many??? Why is not one man sacrificed so that a hundred guilty men can be hanged? These are sheer mathematical caluclations that while cold and emotionless are correct and logical.

In a democracy captialism and greed reign over good, justice, and law. It was America's Theodore Roosevelt who said If it comes to a choice between Law and Righteousness, I choose righteousness.

Brutus Nogoth

Actually, Royalists versus Communists is not uncommon.

At the time of the Russian revolution there was a large minority of Royalists who fought for the "White" Russians against the Red Russians.

yes and this actually happened in the finnish civil war because we were a part of russia, luckily the white one`s won the war and Lenin didn`t decide to attack us .. we actually had mannnerheim in lead even back then cause he was an officer under the royalist russia, but he was originally finnish...

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Finally -- a debate on an intellectual level. Let us look solely at America for a moment.

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[font=Arial]No. whereas I am posting facts, you are posting your opinion that ultimately doesn’t mean shit to the rest of the world. But since you decided to insult my intellect I figured I’ll play along with you. Cheers fuccker.[/font]

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The Founding Fathers are they are so reveredly called were members of the Intelligentsia. Their mission was to create a republic - -not a democracy.

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The members of the Intelligentsia were/are those most capable of making decisions best suited for qhat the people need - -not always what the people want.

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[font=Arial]I suppose your correct here… OH WAIT A SECOND! AMERICA WAS BRAND FUCKING NEW! I REALLY DON’T THINK THEY WOULD HAVE A CONGRESS, COURT, AND PRESIDENT IN THE SAME FUCKING YEAR! OMGWTF!(!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! whereas you pretty much stated yourself that europe was already around for generations before... yet they were still fucking up.[/font]
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The masses voted in politicians who now, no matter how educated, voted not on what was best for the people but voted for what their people wanted - - the quest to remain in office overrid any oath or sense of a higher duty to the common good.

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[font=Arial]Another opinion? Your dull look on American culture reflects poorly on how we kicked your ass. Don’t hate the player; hate the game. Sadly, im sure you hate the world.[/font]
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Democracy is chaos because it allows the masses to rule. The masses are uneducated and, as we have seen, rule of the mob is never just or legal. The masses burned books in Germany and killed their brethren simply because of religion simply because a charistmatic leader - -elected democraticly btw - - told them to.

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[font=Arial]So your implying that the masses are ‘uneducated’? im guessing that would include just about everyone who works 9-5…. “rule of the mob is never just or legal”… … … … … “rule of the monarch is never just or legal”. Show me one mob that is unjust and I’ll show you twenty monarchs that are even worse. [/font]
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What is to stop America from launching its own subjugation of say - gays? They have already tolerated hate crimes and made the actions of my fellows illegal re: marriage. America now is little different from germany and your own fervor blinds you of that fact.

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[font=Arial][font=Arial]Church & State. I’ll stray from this one as it ultimately is a conflict which has no end. But… do you know in the 70’s it was worse then it was now? Considering gay’s are allowed more rights then they were ten-twenty years ago?[/font][/font]
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Under democracy they would never have been possible.

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[font=Arial]All those rulers were responsible for killing atleast one mass of innocent people, granted that democracy has a hand in the killing of innocence… it seems they out-weigh democracy. Perhaps that did do wonderful things good for them. I don’t know how jus[/font][font=Arial]tifying the killing of masses and then harvesting the yearly crops is good from bad.[/font]
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Let us not forget that under democracy, murders are condoned and no one man has the power to decide the fate of the guilty. In a democracy, courts take long times to decide guilt and the wronged are tormented - -the guilty are released on a technicality. Hundreds are allowed to go free so that one innocent is never incarcerated. What happened to good of the many??? Why is not one man sacrificed so that a hundred guilty men can be hanged? These are sheer mathematical caluclations that while cold and emotionless are correct and logical.

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In a democracy captialism and greed reign over good, justice, and law. It was America's Theodore Roosevelt who said If it comes to a choice between Law and Righteousness, I choose righteousness.

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[font=Arial]Through your entire post you have been writing about fiction… when you get your booties on and start a post where you have facts then we’ll dance. Until then, don’t presume to think your high and mighty when nobody really gives a shit that your for a world run by one power. I honestly hope that you figure out a way to fix your problems because YOU NEED HELP![/font]


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"pwnd"

Tell me Recon just how ignorant are you that you cannot tell fact from fiction. Your response is thusly ignored. You have used no facts save your unyielding peasant-like attitude towards anything not your own. Perhaps it is just as well - -had you grown up in Russia you might have been an ardent Communist just as you are an ardent Anarchist.

And if you were born in America you would not have wanted the Germans to have won World War II.

thats what i thought telan.

you have no adequate response to save your retarded image.

you got skooled.

democracy wins again.

come to think of it all... this is the best example of democracy in its finest hour.

Actually, that'd be kind of sad if it was.