You also have to remember that prolonged exposure to the Dark Side begins having negative effects. In fact, the way you have Nihilius' bio, I would almost say he is almost completely fused out with the power he's carrying inside of him; I know he's been in statis, but that also means he wouldn't have developed any gifts or extra abilities - there has to be a balance with the character, mate, and it's this as far as I can tell:

1. He has developed these new abilities, but because he had to be exposed to Dark Side energies for so long for that to happen, he is phsyically dying and becoming weaker.

2. He hasn't developed any new abilities, because his body was in statis and that kept him in a state of suspended animation where nothing changed; which in turn means he wouldn't have been fried by the Dark Side energies...

Those are the two main options I see, depending. I don't believe one can remain unchanged in the physical, while his mental alters - not in complete statis, anyways.

Maybe but Visas Marr says, "...........He is a wound in the Force, more presence than flesh.........." just before you meet up with Darth Nihilus and defeat him. Meaning he is like Nazgul from LOTR and how they were men before they served the will of Sauron and be corrupted by the One Ring. Aragorn did say, ".....Neither living or death." So they are stuck between both worlds like so does for Anubis on Stargate Sg1. I am using these as example. I believe the makers of KOTOR2 at Obsidian Entertainment modeled Nihilus from Nazgul and Anubis.

Greater Storm Beast were enormous than its smaller cousins because of its long exposure to the dark side. Maybe Nihilus has a connection to Malachor V and so does Exile but he decide to lose the connection to the Force and became a wound in the Force like Nihilus.

When a darksider uses any dark side powers and there will be a symbiosis between them, which are: - the dark side drains the essence from the person and using the dark side makes you stronger in the terms of using it.

He may be more presence than flesh, but he still has a physical form. And if he has been sitting pretty with the Dark Side raging inside of him for 5,000 years (or whatever) then that has to do something to him... Whether it be weakened attributes, insanity, you name it.

As for the makers of KOTOR 2... I think they may have gone a little overboard with the new ideas they obviously want to push out. I mean, they make the whole idea behing Nihilius quite frustrating to understand to begin with, and then they don't even fully explain his situation or what he is.

From what I gather, Nihilius sounds like he's passing into becoming a Force Spirit, from the quote you offered just before.

Sure they have a few lines here and there about him, but nothing explaining everything completely. Seems to me they've taken the easy route and just said: "Yeah, the dark side planet did it to him." Which leaves me wondering how exactly a planet can change a person in such a way simply through essence being passed on? Surely there's more to it than that.

I personally think you should keep the idea of Nihilius, but alter him enough to make him your own. In the sense of giving him limited abilities which aren't too powerful, which so far most of the ideas you have are... They are much to strong, quite honestly, at least for RP purposes.

KOTOR IS NOT CANON.

It is not even secondary canon. I don't even know why we are having this debate... the character is rediculous and overpowered, make a new one.

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He's not overpowered in TRF as I stated earlier and it is so canon which Lucas Arts has to regulate the amount of impact on timeline and George Lucas is charge of everything about Star Wars franchise. So anything that is coming on the scene would be a yes or no by George Lucas.

Is TRF run by George Lucas? No.

Fuck Lucas, KOTOR isn't canon.

Pardon my French.

I am not blind you know but we do inspire TRF galaxy from Lucas SW universe. If we didn't have Star Wars or even EU things would get so boring and playing the same crap over and over again. The whole thing would be dead before you even know it. Why do people don't care about non-canon stuff in Star Wars because we are using it now, don't we? Non-Canon stuff makes a big difference in SW universe and adopted it here, like General Grievous, an EU character that wasn't created by Lucas he's too powerful in the terms of Jedi martial arts training by Count Dooku. Plus Clone Wars cartoons are non canon you know?

Why should I give up on Nihilus where it is my freedom of speech to do what I like? Right or is it this forum is dictorship?

Nihilius, clearly TRF is not a dictatorship when the majority of the people debating with you are regular members. In fact, I haven't really seen the staff take much of a side at all in this thread, except for a few friendly tips Kas offered you earlier.


TRF is indeed an RPing galaxy based on the Star Wars universe created by George Lucas. But that's all the more George Lucas and TRF have in common. TRF decides what it wants and what is best for itself. If the general consensus on something is that it is or is not canon, then that's that. End of story.


You are as free as one could ever be to explore every facet of the character Darth Nihilius. As long as you don't negatively affect the other members of the community in any way, you are fine. But they are right, from what I have read of your RPing you do need to tone down Nihilius' powers, his very voice causing pain to a Force user of higher rank like Dolash is just ridiculous. Right now, he's a Padawan. Give him Padawan skills. Or don't bother to play him because sooner or later you'll get yourself into big trouble. It's called godmoding, take a look at the Force user rules.


So I HIGHLY suggest you don't go there, Nihilius. It's in your own best interests to drop that line of argument now before you pay for it. If you need a better idea of what is not overpowered for a Sith Apprentice on TRF, talk to Perrin (Omnae) or myself or someone.... don't continue to argue that he is not to the rest of the board.

Look, I am sorry but all I wanted is help not getting into argument. Not all people have good writing skills and never thought to ask me? I have dyslexia, speaking problems and problems with my writing skills since I was born but I am still learning. People can put people down like that and not good enough to be accepted. I get so fustrated that people don't take a look and care.

His voice is not caused by Force powers, its all because his very altered self which the xbox version game guide says this, "Darth Nihilus is so corrupted by the dark side that his very speech causes pain and death to all who hear it." But to make it fair, why don't his speech causes a mild headache to Dolash for discomfort.

Half the time, I don't know who is who in here? Real confusing. Simon told me that Nihilus would be Perrin Descartes's apprentice.