Um... Nihilus?
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  • Posted On: Apr 6 2005 1:39am
This is where you guys really need someone to peruse bios from time to time and check for these sorts of things before they become an issue.
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  • Posted On: Apr 6 2005 2:06am
Yeah. But then, you could say TRF doesn't expect this.

Nihilius, there is nothing wrong with someone playing a canon character, or playing an old character who has forgotten his powers. Heck, Leia plays a canon character, and I’ve played a very old and very powerful character in the past. However, there are differences between us and you. One, we’ve been here a while and we know the stomping grounds. Two, we have more than a basic grasp of the English language, and three, we didn’t godmode with them.

I would highly suggest that you start with an original character. Shelve Nihilius, learn the ropes, build up your writing skills, etc, and then try your hand at playing the old dude. As it stands right now, I think you’re going to unwittingly get yourself into a lot of trouble with a character this strong.
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  • Posted On: Apr 6 2005 2:17am
Perhaps from this point onward, it's worth taking anything further to PM...
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  • Posted On: Apr 6 2005 2:43am
I had to make a story about Nihilus since there were hardly any canon information about him except what he can do that told us in KOTOR2. Since the ancient Sith race is insectoid race and his mother was a full blown true Sith blood meaning no human DNA and for his mother to interbreed with a Chiss would make their offspring to have physical defects. If his mother was a Human/Sith halfbreed, the defects of her offsprings would be minimal for like thousands of years of breeding with another halfbreed or full human. I went off over this with Jaymach on MSN about all of this and an expert at the Force since he has a site about the Force.

Nihilus's Force Power Level is weak but he has a very strong connection to the Force on a grand scale that it is more atune than no other can see, he sees stars, planets and other things using his unique ability to hunt forcer users like he did when he left nothing on Katarr, Visas Marr's homeworld along with her people and the Jedi Academy there but Visas was a slave and apprentice to Nihilus. There were any traces of any thing living on the planet. Obi-wan told Luke that the Force is "an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us, penetrates us, and binds the galaxy together." The Force is life, and life is the Force. He consumes life and the Force to satisfy his hunger that he is also the Lord of Hunger when he was a Sith Lord. The vampires from movies we've seen that they need warm blood to survive and to satisfy their hunger in a way that Darth Nihilus does. His mask is able to gain a stronger tie to the Force. Besides, Luke Skywalker was a beginner when he was wielding a lightsaber to deflect the stun bolts from the remote on Millenium Falcon by using the Force to sense and did the fancy moves to not getting hit. Practice makes perfect doesn't it? Sensing the Force is the most basic moves that force user can do and improve on it. Especially, for someone who is regaining forgotten force powers or moves. Hey, I was happy to accepted to not having those powers when I created Nihilus on here until Dolash put down when Nihilus used force lightning and whole thing change.

Asajj Ventress was given two duelling lightsabers from Count Dooku aka Darth Tyranus. So Nihilus is familiar to wield lightsaber(s) and their techniques. I'm sure that after Exile killed Kreia on Malachor V, a long forgotten world of the ancient Sith empire. Maybe on that world, containing lightsabers at the Trayus Academy.

I will stick with Nihilus now but I am also happy about for him not having Force powers since he isn't trained yet from a Sith Master except for sense.

BTW, how could Dolash have sense Darth Nihilus was coming that he didn't trigger a disturbance in the Force so Dolash could sense it that in the movies Yoda and other Jedis couldn't sense that Palpatine is actually a Sith Master.
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  • Posted On: Apr 6 2005 9:17pm
I would be hesitant to use an example such as Palpatine, seeing as how episode 3 isn't even out yet and we have yet to see how that all goes down. But to counter that argument anyways, think about when Obi Wan and Qui Gon Jinn met Darth Maul for the first time in Ep 1. Did they not seem to immediately recognize that the odd being dressed in black was some sort of dark threat to be reckoned with?


It is perfectly reasonable to assume that Dolash would have been able to pick up on Nihilius' presence with relative ease, especially given their close proximity. His explanation of why he was in the area also seems legit, as I am sure the fashion in which you arrived would have caused a stir with the spaceport. Not even taking the Force into account yet, Nihilius' antique ship (if I've read your descriptions right) and his physical appearance would stand out rather painfully against the usual backdrop of Theed. Probably enough to attract the attention of onlookers in the immediate area, such as Dolash...


But seeing that you apparently have Ysalamiri on your ship, I guess Nihilius' presence would be hidden within the Force-less bubble that the creatures generate. However I am sure a Jedi would be quick to pick up on the presence of those as well, still putting you under suspicion. Why would anyone take such a creature to a known Jedi stronghold unless they had something to hide from the Jedi? Certainly not just for a pet...


In conclusion, while I agree it is doubtful that Dolash would have been able to specifically sense the presence of a Sith, and identify that Sith to be Nihilius solely using the Force, he still would have at the very least either sensed a Dark presence in the area, or sensed the complete lack of the Force on your ship. We can therefore assume it would only be reasonable that Dolash would have had his suspicions about the mysterious ship and it's owner, and therefore decided to investigate.


Dolash might have made a better post, had he not been in the awkward position of standing up to a foe who apparently did not understand the limitations on power that needed to apply to his character. From what I can see, he attempted to adjust accordingly.
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  • Posted On: Apr 7 2005 12:48am
I too would agree that Dolash (whom it was already established in an earlier thread tends to patrol the city from time to time) would be attracted to such an odd occurance, and certainly the lack of any force power at all emanating from the ship (as you said, the force is life, and thus the ship was like a blank spot of lifelessness) would arouse his curiosity.

Nihilus would be easily identified as a Sith, if not by the dark energies rolling off him (which may have been masked by the Ysalmari, I am not familiar with them) then by his apperance, his demeanour, and his presence.
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  • Posted On: Apr 7 2005 1:14am
Dolash, the Yaslamiri is a creature from the planet Mykyr who developed the ability to create a small, Force-less bubble around itself to protect against their predators, the vornskyr, who hunt using the Force (very basically). Nihilius would be undetectable to any, even the strongest of Masters, but I doubt that a sudden dark area of Force on the Jedi's home planet would go unnoticed. Without having read your actual RP post, and gathering information from these last few posts, from what I can tell your method of discovering Nihilius is completely legit.

I have, however, been known to make mistakes...

...from time to time.
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  • Posted On: Apr 7 2005 12:16pm
The Jedi were unprepared in Ep I that they thought all Sith were gone over a millennium so they had less training to keep their toes on the ground to give a welcome greeting of duelling with another force user.

There is a story that I got from my friend about ysalamiri's abilities to repel the Force, that they didn't create the bubble naturally in their bodies, it was what they were in eating in the trees from a very rare but known metal to repel the Force.

I was going over with the game and Visas Marr said this. "...........He is a wound in the Force, more presence than flesh.........." So I am guessing Nihilus is more non corporeal than corporeal and maybe Malachor V remade Nihilus in this way which it has a very unusual to have the planet's core to be dark side energies. The people who played the game would see the dark side energies were gushing out to the surface and destroyed Trayus Core in the process. Something happen to Nihilus on Malachor V that made him that way to be altered.

So that maybe why Dolash could sense Nihilus without under ysalamiri's force-repel bubble because of his presense of dark side energies.
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  • Posted On: Apr 7 2005 2:51pm
Darth Nihilius
The Jedi were unprepared in Ep I that they thought all Sith were gone over a millennium so they had less training to keep their toes on the ground to give a welcome greeting of duelling with another force user.



This is not Episode One. This is TRF. In TRF, there ARE Sith and the Jedi have had numerous encounters with them. It is perfectly reasonable Dolash would be prepared to meet one.


Darth Nihilius

There is a story that I got from my friend about ysalamiri's abilities to repel the Force, that they didn't create the bubble naturally in their bodies, it was what they were in eating in the trees from a very rare but known metal to repel the Force.


This is also wrong. It states specifically in Heir to the Empire that ysalamiri created a Forceless bubble.

End of story.
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  • Posted On: Apr 7 2005 7:17pm
This is not Episode One. This is TRF. In TRF, there ARE Sith and the Jedi have had numerous encounters with them. It is perfectly reasonable Dolash would be prepared to meet one.


I know this isn't Ep I that I am not blind but merely stating the facts and I am guessing in TRF were the same timeline as SW timeline until we came along and change it.

This is also wrong. It states specifically in Heir to the Empire that ysalamiri created a Forceless bubble.


I gather you ain't a member of Hyperspace in the official SW site and I am not a member to it, too. But he put the page into a adobe reader and gave it to me as prove.