Seeking Permission (Staff)
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  • Posted On: Jun 15 2010 6:46am
Addressing the open ends... I want to be as open about this as possible.


Like I said, I wish to obtain the IC assets of a small Calamarian organization dedicated to finding ways to support their people besides simply relying on Coalition welfare, and Home One which has been reduced to a rusty skeleton with sputtering engines. But it is still a symbol. Of fighting yes, but also of the Republic founded from the original canon Rebellion.


If the community will allow me to do this, these assets will be assumed to remain dormant but still intact from the time of the completion of the RP to the current time (the completion of Cataclysm).


Smarts' interest in my plans stems from the fact that in the current timeline, we want to try and convince Corise's Alliance to reinvent itself. We are hoping to try and convince Corise and the rest of the active Alliance to move their focus away from simply Rebelling against the Empire with their fleet battles and realizing that the events of Cataclysm have significantly changed the dynamics of the galaxy. We want to encourage the group to become something more, and move towards diplomacy, upholding Republic ideals of unity and peace, and people banding together to both survive and rebuild. We want to find a way to react to the changes Cataclysm has brought about.


Should Leia's part in A Rough Rough be successfully completed, in the current time line we would start a new RP and do everything the way it is supposed to be done in the current time line (you seem to fear an attempt to retcon the Alliance's acquisition of Calamarian support and Home One into a Rough Road, no?). Leia would return to visit the Calamarians, and figure out what my little organization has been up to with their rusty old warship skeleton since the Calamarians have settled down a bit. Probably delivering fuzzy wookiee dolls between planets to earn a meager income, or something equally stupid and unimportant. She would convince them to travel with her to meet the leaders of the Alliance, and attempt to push the changes mentioned above. As a given, I will have to take the time to explain why they would care and whatever.


Should the mission succeed and the Alliance become convinced, the time will be taken to RP out in the current time line the acquisition of the meager Calamarian support and Home One with all applicable expectations for such things being fulfilled.


Like you said yes, we could do this quick and easy by simply starting the new RP without doing anything in a Rough Road and still end up with the same result. But I really want the chance to have a good backstory, and I just have this thing with Home One. If you really want, I will beg Ahnk or Gue or whoever until they say fine, have it BDE probably wouldn't do anything with it anyways. This RP was of significant importance to me, and I just want to see myself finish it.



The only parts of A Rough Road I will edit are parts written by myself, which includes the introduction and existence of the entire resistance cell on Mon Cal. I want to portray them instead as a non gun toting organization that is not inclined to turn into a full fledged Rebellion (important to me because according to what is now TRF history, they apparently didn't). And I want to cut out parts of the Han Solo thing, I hope Vance won't have a problem with that. I think that is the only change I want to make that actually affects another person besides Smarts helping me.



Vodo's story arc, I am leaving alone. Lance's posts, leaving those alone. The interaction between Leia and Tyscio on Capricia at the beginning of the thread, stays. Ajay Atlom, Jalyne and Alexander Sturm are easily ignored. They never came into contact with my story arcs and could potentially continue on if they wanted to.



I need to delete all of Ross Maklo's posts, that is me.
I need to delete all of my posts as Leia from my post on 11-24-2007, 11:02 PM on page 2 and on.




I will then rewrite the so-called "resistance cell's" introduction and portray them as a mixed gathering of civilians, government officials, military, whatever, who are interested in contributing to the evacuation and their people. No hostility, no resistance, no Coalition or Empire hating (might be a little doubt though).

To do anything useful and productive, we'll then need a ship. But damn, none around. Maybe Home One still runs?

Leia approaches Smarts, Smarts helps Leia salvage enough parts from leftover war debris to get Home One running. Minimum crew according to Wookieepedia: 1,230

Damn, how do we get that many people who are capable of running a ship?
Still working that out... the group will have to develop into an organization of sorts to make it work.


The organization then uses Home One to aid in the evacuation of Mon Cal. The arrival and settling at the new planet is briefly explored, and then everyone parts ways. The end.


Even if the community collectively votes that I can't move Home One out of BDE space in the thread, I still ask permission to redo my posts containing the resistance cell.
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  • Posted On: Jun 15 2010 7:05am
I don't like the idea of someone going back to a thread that happened a few years back and editting their part of the story, while leaving the rest of it as it was.
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  • Posted On: Jun 15 2010 7:13am
How else does one maintain continuity when they are trying to account for a group creation effort they wrote into their character history that ultimately never happened?



Yes, I am being OCD. But I write here for storyline, not for competitive keeps. That is easily left to other people.
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  • Posted On: Jun 15 2010 8:19am
Write new threads.

S'what I do.
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  • Posted On: Jun 15 2010 8:31am
I find myself tortured by the existence of unfinished RPs and botched story arcs.


Even if I know most people probably never bothered to read them in the first place, and never will. :|
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  • Posted On: Jun 15 2010 8:33am
Well, the problem is the opposite in this case, a lot of other people were involved in that thread, and some of them aren't here anymore. I find the idea of writing around them, without their input whatsoever, to be entirely odd.
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  • Posted On: Jun 15 2010 9:35am
The only people significantly involved in the thread who are completely gone are...


Lance McCallister, last known activity: 09-20-2008 05:57 PM

Vodo Baas, last known activity: 08-23-2009. As far as I know, he quit TRF altogether. I have seen him on AIM occasionally in the past week, maybe I could contact him.


In other RPs when people have been gone for as long as Lance and Vodo have been both IC and OOC, stories have been carried on around characters. Just how long is one supposed to wait on another to post before enough is enough? It hasn't been just a few months here. And this isn't a fleet engagement or something like that where assets are at stake.


For example: While I was gone on a very long hiatus years ago, Dolash took over TJO and continued that, and eventually decided to close it right as I was returning. I absolutely did not find it ideal, but he was right in that someone had to carry on and do something in the long expanse I was inactive, and so something was done.


And what about all the loose ends and characters Omnae has to tie up all the time?


It has always been done to a certain extent. I mean, what am I supposed to do... never finish an RP because someone hasn't posted in 2 years and might never again?


Everyone else who was involved in the RP is generally still around TRF, and are certainly encouraged to weigh in now, that is why I posted this thread in this public forum. Wes, Zark, Vance, Omnae, Smarts... all still here. Although Corise's continued absence is worrisome...
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  • Posted On: Jun 15 2010 11:19am
Those are never done by editting an old thread, though. I have no issue with doing a RP that retcons part of your history... such RPs are basically all I ever do. I just don't like editting a thread months after the fact and continuing it without most of it's original cast involved.
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  • Posted On: Jun 16 2010 2:34am
Vodo Baas, last known activity: 08-23-2009. As far as I know, he quit TRF altogether. I have seen him on AIM occasionally in the past week, maybe I could contact him.



Vodo was out of country for work related purposes for the past while, but if I understand his facebook updates correctly, he should be back in the States now. He checks facebook frequently, so if needed I could in theory contact him there for you OS (if you don't catch him on AIM).

However my bet is that he won't care about what you do concerning TRF.
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  • Posted On: Jun 16 2010 4:22am
Ahnk Rashanagok
Those are never done by editting an old thread, though. I have no issue with doing a RP that retcons part of your history... such RPs are basically all I ever do. I just don't like editting a thread months after the fact and continuing it without most of it's original cast involved.



So then, how do I retcon Leia meeting a organized movement of Calamarians (in the current RP or in a new one) who obtain and use Home One to contribute towards the evacuation efforts during her time on Mon Cal? Unless I make up an IC reason to arbitrarily change the plot and the motives driving Leia's continued presence on Mon Cal, my last couple posts in the thread create continuity problems (for me) that must be addressed. How do I get around the fact that in my last post, I wrote that the resistance cell declared it was going to take Home One and go to the Confederation? Not to mention, my posts in which Leia proposes the founding of a Galactic Rebellion to the resistance members.



Completely open to suggestion.