Granted, I'm not engaged in any of these issues IC (yet) but knowing Wes the way I do; I'm more then willing to suggest that an exception be allowed in this case. It's Wes, after all.

I eat babies

Thanks for the complement, Beff. Actually, I didn't know the Druid didn't have a test thread yet, but I've been using the same fleet throughout my fleeting actions here ("Hopes and Dreams" and "A Capital Threat, Part I"), so I didn't know there was a problem. The ship hasn't factored in majorly at any point yet, so I guess it hasn't been noticed. If you want, I can do the 500 words for the R&D thread.

I don't have a problem with it. Just pointing it out.

I want to express a personal opinion on this subject.

R&D threads, at 500 words, strike me as something of a half-measure. We've moved away from stats and an R&D staff for approval sake but we still operate half-way between the Math Faction and not. I'd like to propose the idea that a 500-word RP could be extended to include non-fleet oriented threads which detail the R&D in question. Thus; the requirment of explanation is still mandated in the R&D document and the In Character portion but would not have to be relegated to a single "this is my R&D post" entry. In effect, and because not every R&D is tested to its fullest, this would imply that the In Character R&D post portion of the project could be spread across multiple threads and then linked into the R&D document itself. I realize the complications this could produce which is why I'm (un)voicing my opinion to the community as a whole.

Thoughts?

I like the idea. Actually, what I had wanted to do with this thread was re-post it as the last post of my "Schutzstaffel" thread (Part I). That would make logical sense based on the nature of the thread. If Beff's idea was accepted, that would have made doing that much easier.

500 words spread across multiple threads? Condsidering I didn't like the extermination of the former R&D rules, I surely don't like this idea. But as the past shows, my opinions as valuable as a grain of salt.

The GC/BDE thing was not discussing whether you should have the 500 word rp or not but whether the 500 word rp should be a part of the attack thread itself. If memory serves, the GC did post 500 words for the R&D in question... they just did it in the actual rp, in which case, their numbers would have been extremely limited, hence, the 1 or 2 prototype craft allowed at the time.


The two step R&D process was created because there is no longer an approval process. There are inherent flaws in either system because if approved, no matter what was written in the specs, if it had a mod approval, the player would use that as an excuse to do whatever. The specs are always overpowered and they always amount to people putting as much stuff as they can into as small a space as possible. Given that 99% of the people will do this, the specs are not supposed to reflect what the craft can or cannot do. They simply are your list as to what it has. The 500 word rp will reflect the R&D's usage and what it can/cannot do.

Now if a person is unreasonable in their list specs, reflects that unreasonableness in their 500 word rp, and then compounds that unreasonableness by roleplaying it in a fleet roleplay, well that person really doesn't need to be R&D'ing anything.


If R&Ders do not list their 500 word rp link to their R&D, then their stuff should not be played. It's not hard to check...and it's not supposed to be spread over multiple threads.


Since Jan isn't making an issue of this though (as is his right), it's all good.

Simon Kaine

The two step R&D process was created because there is no longer an approval process. There are inherent flaws in either system because if approved, no matter what was written in the specs, if it had a mod approval, the player would use that as an excuse to do whatever. The specs are always overpowered and they always amount to people putting as much stuff as they can into as small a space as possible. Given that 99% of the people will do this, the specs are not supposed to reflect what the craft can or cannot do. They simply are your list as to what it has. The 500 word rp will reflect the R&D's usage and what it can/cannot do.

Not true, we had a review thread in the forum to point out misgivings of certain R&D's and have the mod's review them again. We were some of the most active mod's on the board when it came to activity...

Thank you, Simon.

Just to note; my proposal would not utilize any basic word requirment before application In Character, but rather an on-going 'history' if you will of how the ship was employed before with links provided and updated.