About Jedi Training...
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  • Posted On: Jun 16 2004 2:27pm
Ummm...Could I please have access to the TJO subforum please? It seems I got locked out over night...
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  • Posted On: Jun 16 2004 2:40pm
Ok, this may be buggy, as I'm just getting it set up.

Go to your User CP, and scroll to the bottom. In the 'Miscellaneous' section, there is a link called 'Group Memberships' Click that, and then request to join the appropriate TJO usergroup. Leia can then accept or deny your application when she gets on. Hopefully I have the permissions setup fine.

:)
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  • Posted On: Jun 16 2004 2:45pm
The request went through...now to see if the rest of it works ;)
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  • Posted On: Jun 16 2004 7:28pm
uh I guess that was right...
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  • Posted On: Jun 19 2004 10:48pm
You know, although I might have just about reached promotion once the group RP gets going (and then finishes), and I have several options after that if I'm not, we should really consider changing the promotion rules to take into account the possibility of there being no one to mentor under. Perhaps make it that the nessecary role-playing merely has to be done with someone else, not nessecarily someone playing as your mentor.
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  • Posted On: Jun 21 2004 5:13am
Well... there *was* a Force council to oversee that, but uh.... I think it died.


Promotion and training is not yet a problem for TJO, though some things do need to be stretched to help us get along in our current state. We... er, ok ok... I will not allow our Padawans to be promoted without an RP with an approved mentor. What the staff decides to do with TRF's official guidelines on the matter, is up to them.
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  • Posted On: Jun 21 2004 12:03pm
Ok, you seem to be missing my point, which is:

THERE ARE NOT MANY MENTORS LEFT FOR PADAWANS TO TRAIN WITH

I think there's just you left with even the vaguest apperance of activness, and there's at least three people who want training. The mentor system is, very simply, a BAD IDEA. It only works if there are ample people available to train others. Make it so the RPs don't need someone else playing the mentor, just someone else participating. There are loads of people who could help out an apprentice by role-playing with them.
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  • Posted On: Jun 21 2004 8:16pm
I am making daily appearances, they are just usually at 2 am. This does make me invisible unless I do a lot of posting and I apologize for that, but I cannot avoid it. I will train all three, plus 3 more before I declare myself even slightly being overloaded with work.


In the past in my bigger days, I was known to routinely train 7 or 8 Padawans at the same time, just on TGC alone, as well as fulfilling my regular staff duties at TGC. Remember (or be advised), TJO did start out with just one member who was not a Padawan, and it was me. It had to grow somehow.


The mentor system is a proven one which in my years of experience on different boards turns out better high ranking Force users overall. Trust me. Amalia? A shining example of this. There are others, but she is my favorite example because she went from uh... needing work, to one of the best and most well known.


The mentor system also helps me identify and weed out well, to be blunt.... hopelessly stupid people who will not improve with any amount of tutoring and help. Browse the training grounds, you'll find the threads.


Also, you can RP all you want about your development on your own. I know it is not widely announced that that's encouraged, but uh.... I would assume it's common sense to write RPs about the development of your character, and you shouldn't have to be told to or given permission to do that??? And all you have to do is link your mentor, so that they know what you are up to.


I would never vote to get rid of the mentor system. It's proven too beneficial in the past. Indeed it would depend on me being here regularly, so I guess having said this I better start fully living up to my words.
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  • Posted On: Jun 21 2004 11:54pm
Hey, I know people are free to develope their characters and all, but I mean promotion-requirement-wise. The mentor system may have worked in the past, but it just doesn't seem like a good idea now, with so few to train the padawans. Surely all the points you've brought up could be dealt with by some sort of review or interview process? The point is the actual achieving of Jedi status hinges greatly - far too greatly - on there being masters around willing to train you and who will also post frequently. Kind of a risk there, and without Cole I think that just really leaves you.
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  • Posted On: Jun 22 2004 12:39am
Where is your training thread Dolash?