That's not the issue, Marth. The fact that schools put more money into athletics (a select few people who make the Football team) than into academics (which everyone in the school participates in) is absurd.

If schools want to have sports, the entire budget should come from their player's pockets.

Right. That would explain why so many jocks are so incredibly stupid.

I think we have our wires crossed. I'm talking about people who can throw a ball, hit a ball, run fast, have the coordination to perhaps do both at once. I'm not talking about conceited morons.

No, kissing ass remains a key factor in any job interview.

Until you've done a white collar job interview, for a company thats trying to make money, don't talk about what you don't know.

Sports doesn’t teach you anything that can be applied to the real world. You can’t take what you learn on a football field and apply it to a corporation; there’s just no correlation between the two. If what you’re saying were true, most high school jocks would go on to be high-ranking corporate managers by value of their having played football alone. HINT: They don’t.

You must be more narrow minded than i give you credit for Gash, if you think thats true. Parallels can be drawn between almost any two things, and your blatant refusal to look past your own viewpoint will cause you some serious problems in later life.

Teamwork, even on the simplest of levels (learning to pass the ball to a teammate to score instead of going it yourself and @#%$ up) correlates directly to success in your assigned project. If you can't see that well, heres hoping for your sake that you can.

Oh, you got me, Lupercus. I tried out for so many teams in high school, and time and time again was refused… that’s the root of my animus, my troubled childhood… oh, the tears…

No Gash, you seem to me to be the kind of person who has never tried for it and never will try for it. Whether thats through fear of failure, or not caring i don't know, although i have my suspicions.

Give me a break. What is it with you people and your unshakable belief that you have achieved greatness by being on your high school football team? Why is that belief matched only by your certainty that everyone else wishes they could be on “THE TEAM, HOOT HOOT” as well?

When once did i imply that i was greater than you as a result of having played competitive sport at school? Or that i had acheived any level of superior greatness?

I know many people who aren't on the team. Alot of my friends aren't, alot are. My statement came as a result of reading something written by someone who it would appear to me is simply lashing out at being socially inept and, as a result of that has labelled his arch-nemesi 'jocks', simply because they had more fun and, coincidentaly played sport.

Wait, wait, I’m sorry, you came into a thread I started and took an opposing viewpoint backed up by a few threadbare, poorly-composed and ill-conceived points, and I’m the one bitching. Interesting. I guess that’s some more jock intelligence.

Ahh, the hypocracy.

The fact that schools put more money into athletics (a select few people who make the Football team) than into academics (which everyone in the school participates in) is absurd.

They don't Isstal. Ever stop to think about how much it costs to employ an entire school of teachers?

Teachers get paid jack. A teacher's annual salary is probably less than what college football organizations pay for that Lamborghini they bought for their best player.

I think we have our wires crossed. I'm talking about people who can throw a ball, hit a ball, run fast, have the coordination to perhaps do both at once. I'm not talking about conceited morons.

Yeah… I don’t see any of those around.

Until you've done a white collar job interview, for a company thats trying to make money, don't talk about what you don't know.

As opposed to a company that’s trying to go under, right? Yeah. There’s that analytical prowess again.

You must be more narrow minded than i give you credit for Gash, if you think thats true. Parallels can be drawn between almost any two things, and your blatant refusal to look past your own viewpoint will cause you some serious problems in later life.

That’s like saying the perseverance I’ve practiced while taking shits will one day help me get a job. There simply is no correlation between the two.

I also fail to see how my inability to connect throwing a football and patting your teammates’ asses to business (a field I am not going into anyway) will harm me later on in life. Maybe you should try looking past the “SPORTS ARE GOOD, I WILL @#%$ KILL YOU NON-SPORT NERDS” paradigm. (Doesn’t it suck when I make vague generalizations about your state of mind?)

Teamwork, even on the simplest of levels (learning to pass the ball to a teammate to score instead of going it yourself and @#%$ up) correlates directly to success in your assigned project. If you can't see that well, heres hoping for your sake that you can.

Are you absolutely stupid? Do you have any idea how the business world works? How does PASSING A @#%$ BALL have anything to do with it? Employee and inter-office dynamics is a complex business that involves adapting to the strengths and weaknesses of your co-workers. The only possible @#%$ way sports could help you do that is to teach you the basic principle behind it – which is what I just said.

So unless you’re stupid enough not to know the basis of it – in which case you’re probably more suited for dealing with the dynamics between a burger and a grill – sports probably can’t help you with surviving in the business world.

No Gash, you seem to me to be the kind of person who has never tried for it and never will try for it. Whether thats through fear of failure, or not caring i don't know, although i have my suspicions.

Oh, thank you Freud, I am so glad I have you here to diagnose me. By the way, I believe you’re showing symptoms of “dumbass jock syndrome”. You should see a doctor.

Maybe you should try pulling your head out of your ass and stop making assumptions. One surefire way to tell that a person hasn’t a leg to stand on in an argument is when they start trying to psychologically evaluate you.

(Some background. Gash played organized baseball as a kid, and still plays soccer occasionally as a hobby. But not in a god damn school.)

Sigmund, let me see if you can get this through that head of yours. I DO NOT LIKE SPORTS. I do not enjoy them. I do not enjoy watching them. I do not enjoy playing them. I do not like them at all in any way. Do you get it, now? Can you wrap your head around the fact that some people may spend their leisure time differently than you? Or do you think the entire world yearns only to be on their high school football team, and anyone who didn’t get on spends every night crying themselves to sleep? Jesus.

When once did i imply that i was greater than you as a result of having played competitive sport at school? Or that i had acheived any level of superior greatness?

All throughout your posts in this thread…?

I know many people who aren't on the team. Alot of my friends aren't, alot are. My statement came as a result of reading something written by someone who it would appear to me is simply lashing out at being socially inept and, as a result of that has labelled his arch-nemesi 'jocks', simply because they had more fun and, coincidentaly played sport.

Oh, give me a @#%$ break with the psychoanalysis, Sigmund. Now it’s getting old. If by ‘socially inept’ you mean I have a passionate dislike for stupid people who say stupid things and fill schools I pay for with stupid @#%$, then yes I am. I’m actually not sure how I could “lash out at being socially inept”, given that if I were it would be a thing and not a person.

And by the way, you asked where you acted in a conceited manner in your last quoted passage. Could it be that making wildly off-base assumptions about my character because you feel that anyone who isn’t a jock couldn’t POSSIBLY have friends might make you appear a bit big-headed? Hmm. And what was that @#%$ about being narrow-minded? Suddenly, anyone who isn’t a fan of jocks is a socially inept loser. I think that closed-mindedness will hamper you in later life, Sigmund! Careful now!

Whatever “arch-nemesi” means, you’ve once again made a wildly incorrect assumption about why I dislike sports in school. First of all, I’ve told you time and time again, I am not a “sports fan”. Other than the occasional game of soccer, I don’t like playing them, I don’t like watching them. Instead of going to my high school football games, I skipped and went to the mall with friends. Why? Because I just don’t like them. You don’t get that, do you? You’re so rapped up in your high school mentality of “Me Big Jock, Everyone Want to Be Like Me” that you seem to ignore the possibility that SOME PEOPLE DERIVE ENJOYMENT FROM DOING @#%$ OTHER THAN KICKING A FOOTBALL.

In addition to this, I’d say you’ve probably forgotten who you’re talking to, here. I’ve got a number of enemies, including:

-Republicans.
-Homophobes.
-Christian extremists.

Jocks aren’t necessarily on that list. I just so happen to disagree with sport in schools, and most of their lives revolve around sports in schools. It’s nothing personal, really; it just places us at irreconcilably opposing viewpoints.

Ahh, the hypocracy.

Don’t flatter me, Sigmund, I think you’re the king of that castle.

You completely ignored my previous post.

I really hope you have some counter-points to my comments because this is actually one of the few enjoyable debates I've read in a long time.

Bump, have you given up?