Answer: The guards at Gutanomo Bay!

ZING!

Your fighting two countries and losing.. how that possible?

Umm last I checked the U.S. was occupying Iraq and Afghanistan, not the other way around.

Last I checked US soldiers die daily because the civilians don't want them there. So far the US has made close to no ground beside an election that was probably rigged by the US goverment to place a puppet in power just to gain control over the oil fields. Conspicracy theories aside soldiers continue to fight a war they will not win.

Come now, Circe, yo'ure overlooking the obvious difference between Vietnam and our invasion of the Middle East... you can sell a barrel of oil for a lot more than a barrel of rice :D

Here I was, all up on my high horse and about to spew some ignorant political garbage (as seems to be the trend) when I happened to read the following...

And who ever beats insurgents?

Answer: The guards at Gutanomo Bay!

ZING!

And you know what? I think that's the best thing to come out of this thread yet.

Yes it was.

Last I checked US soldiers die daily because the civilians don't want them there. So far the US has made close to no ground beside an election that was probably rigged by the US goverment to place a puppet in power just to gain control over the oil fields. Conspicracy theories aside soldiers continue to fight a war they will not win.

Last time I checked the insurgents are dying at a far higher rate than the U.S. soldiers. This is a war of attrition that the insurgents cannot win. And the election was not rigged, and we do not have control over the oil fields. The only reason gas prices are dropping right now is because of the big discovery in the Gulf, and that OPEC, suddenly realizing that we'll become less dependent on them, wants to make it's self look better than our new oil find. Besides, no one wins in war, espically not the soldiers. Wars are tools of entertainment for politicans.

We're only getting about 3 of them for one of us. That's a bad ratio. We can't keep that up, either, if they decided to go all out. We're losign the war of attrition, because there's a lot more of them than there are of us.

"them" & "us"

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Three thousaidn soldiers killed at a ratio of three to one places an eztimated nine thousand Iraqis dead. This is a victory?

Park, despite our friendship, I must pull ny plausibility card. You do not know whether the elections were rigged - you were not there. And even if you were, you would still not know.