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  • Posted On: Oct 8 2004 1:25am
How the hell do I need freaking help? What part of 'I was responding by how I interpeted your intent' do you understand?

Look, neither of us know each other very well. I've been around Kas, Theren, etc long enough to know to take certain comments of theirs with a grain of salt. That's not the case with you (and many others on this site), thus I didn't know or could tell you were joking: but I did respond to your intial response with a joke of my own. I was willing to let it go at that, but responses after that started getting under my skin (more due to the off topic nature the thread was going rather then the 'flames').

We both started batting at each other over a simple misinterpetation of intent as a result. I admit I jumped the gun a bit with my own comments and I apologize. Why don't we end this stupid little spat now before we start ripping each others throats out?
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  • Posted On: Oct 8 2004 1:36am
Slaskia
*sighs again* why should what news site someone watches have any bearing on the right and ability to roleplay?


You could still roleplay, just not here. Common sense and a calm rationality is required for the forums at TRF, and wacky faco tacos with their cross burning and their gay hating just doesn't lend itself very well to being calm, cool, and collected.

The fact is that Fox News is not a news network, it's just a shill for the religious right, people like the Swift Boat Mercenaries for Cash, and Dubya. There's nosuch thing as a fair and balanced piece on Fox... and if you want to say that media is liberal, well, it's hard not to be if your definition of centrality is Fox News.

In fact, just to evidence that Fox News is NOT a news network, here's an example of Fox News making up a story to try and derail the ker-pwn smashing Kerry layed on Bbbbb...bbbb..uuuu...sh... at the debates:

Rallying supporters in Tampa Friday, Kerry played up his performance in Thursday night's debate, in which many observers agreed the Massachusetts senator outperformed the president.

"Didn't my nails and cuticles look great? What a good debate!" Kerry said Friday.

With the foreign-policy debate in the history books, Kerry hopes to keep the pressure on and the sense of traction going.

Aides say he will step up attacks on the president in the next few days, and pivot somewhat to the domestic agenda, with a focus on women and abortion rights.

"It's about the Supreme Court. Women should like me! I do manicures," Kerry said.

Kerry still trails in actual horse-race polls, but aides say his performance was strong enough to rally his base and further appeal to voters ready for a change.

"I'm metrosexual — he's a cowboy," the Democratic candidate said of himself and his opponent.

A "metrosexual" is defined as an urbane male with a strong aesthetic sense who spends a great deal of time and money on his appearance and lifestyle.


Did Kerry really say that stuff? Stuff that sounds like classic winger parody? I looked around on google and no other reporters seem to have gotten those choice quotes from Senator Kerry. A source on the Kerry campaign told me Kerry certainly didn't say anything remotely like that.

So what's the story from Fox? Are these quotes real? Made up? Unidentified parody? Straight-up fabrications?

...

Now Fox has pulled the article from the front page without explanation. And on the article itself the passages I quoted in the post below have all been removed -- again, without explanation.

...

Okay some more details on that bogus Kerry story that ran this morning on the Fox News website. As we noted earlier, this morning the front page of the Fox website ran a story with a series of phony Kerry quotes (see post below). After questions were asked the offending material was quickly pulled from the site, without explanation.

So what happened?

Late this afternoon I spoke to Fox spokesman Paul Schur who told me the following ...

“Carl [Cameron] made a stupid mistake which he regrets. And he has been reprimanded for his lapse in judgment. It was a poor attempt at humor.”

So the Fox reporter covering the Kerry campaign puts together this Kerry-bashing parody right out of the RNC playbook with phony quotes intended to peg him as girlish fool and somehow it found its way on the Fox website as a news item.

Imagine that.

...

Fox News has now posted a retraction and apology for the piece with the fabricated Kerry quotes ...

Earlier Friday, FOXNews.com posted an item purporting to contain quotations from Kerry. The item was based on a reporter’s partial script that had been written in jest and should not have been posted or broadcast. We regret the error, which occurred because of fatigue and bad judgment, not malice.

The only retraction doesn't name the reporter in question, Carl Cameron, which was noted in the statement Fox News gave TPM this afternoon.


THAT'S why you don't get News from Fox News. If there's no good news for the Conservatives, they just pretend that the Liberals came out.
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  • Posted On: Oct 8 2004 1:40am
Can we get this topic, BACK on topic? If you wish to discuss politics take it to another thread
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  • Posted On: Oct 8 2004 1:52am
Ahnk: I don't follow the political side of things on any news sites (beyond the political cartoons anyway), so I can't really argue for or against your PoV on that. That being said, you can't claim CNN and the like are guiltless in that department ('Memogate' anyone? Personally I liked the title 'Rathergate' better :D)

However, on non-political stories I've seen a number of stories Fox reported first 'copied' on CNN and ABC. So as far as I can tell you can't claim Fox frabricated 'all' of their news.

You could still roleplay, just not here. Common sense and a calm rationality is required for the forums at TRF, and wacky faco tacos with their cross burning and their gay hating just doesn't lend itself very well to being calm, cool, and collected.


Excuse me? I am far from being 'gay hating', a 'wacky faco taco', or a 'cross burner'. You must have me confused with someone else.
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  • Posted On: Oct 8 2004 3:04am
Ahnk, at least Fox issued a formal appology for their mistake, unlike CBS...

Anyway, this thread isn't about this, so let's either stay on topic, or I'll split the thread & close the split, because it's doing no good.
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  • Posted On: Oct 8 2004 3:36am
To hell with frank political discussion. Fox news is always right, and if anyone says different I'll kill them.

BTW, Kas, that was byfar the nerdiest threat I've ever seen. It even beats out the losers who quote Darth Vader when they threaten people.

(Here's looking at you, Hyfe)
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  • Posted On: Oct 8 2004 4:12am
Kas
Ahnk, at least Fox issued a formal appology for their mistake, unlike CBS...


I guess you missed Dan Rather apologizing the next day.

And the day after that.

Or the numerous times it was repeated on major news networks.

But... oh, that's right. It wasn't on Fox News because they like to continue bashing him.
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  • Posted On: Oct 8 2004 4:52am
LOL @ Demo


Slas: I never really had a problem with you. Your little bro is a tool. I made a joke, you misunderstood it, I didn't care. Kal getting on my case, and the 2 of you getting all serious about this is what bugged me.


LOL again @ Demo.
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  • Posted On: Oct 8 2004 5:05am
Master Ahnk
I guess you missed Dan Rather apologizing the next day.

And the day after that.

Or the numerous times it was repeated on major news networks.

But... oh, that's right. It wasn't on Fox News because they like to continue bashing him.

Ah, my mistake. CBS appologized, but didn't reveal the source, IIRC.
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  • Posted On: Oct 8 2004 5:19am
CNN revealed the source anyway.

You don't reveal your sources, ever. That's the first rule of journalism is that no matter what they did, you never give up your sources, unless at the time you know that they commited an illegal activity, then you are abedding a crime.