Lord Gue

Why not just link it? lol

Well, because I didn't want to annoy anyone by putting an unauthorsed advert for something not SW related on the RTF board. But now I will, and you can thrill at my amazing editing skills....or laugh, more likely.

Cheers

K

Beff Pike

This is not a historical film. This is an interpretation of a graphic novel to the film medium (only, without the film) which in of itself was an adaption of a historic event taken to Epic scale.

Hollywood isn't interested in making accurate films.

On the television side of things; I am HORRIBLY loving the second season of Rome.

I'm aware of that, Beff - I'm not sure why you've made this point - I thought I'd been pretty clear that I didn't think it was supposed to be accurate as I mention that its based on a comic book, but if I didn't, I'm sorry for misleading you.

I'm just disappointed after waiting for many years for a film abou thte Spartans, they've gone with basing it on a comic book that wasn't particularly good in the first place. I hated the artwork, so for me, the visual look of 300 is putting me off even more that the giant hunchback monsters and space ninjas that are supposed to be the Immortals.

I was hoping that Hallmark would "suddenly" come out with their version, like they did with Helen of Troy a few years ago. All of Hallmarks sword and sandal stuff has been pretty good by and large, and I had high hopes that they would go down this road. Helen of Troy was ace - apart from the bad choice of actor for Achilles - unless you've always visualised Achilles as a bald WWF wrestler.

To be fair, however, the 1965 "300 Spartans" made a pretty good fist of getting the events correct, if no the numbers. But, you are right - movies aren't really supposed to accurate, so I wouldn't be surprised if another version of 300 comes out where the American marines appear at the end and win the war for the Spartans....

I get a bit narked about the accuracy thing, to be honest. I wish they could make a little more of an effort, but the truth is that movies should be entertaining first, accurate second. I know that sounds obvious, but you'd never get over the amount of wailing and teeth gnashing that goes on about it.

But that said - I think something authentic if not accurate would have been great. Well, for me, it would be. So I'd best go and write that oscar winning script, then...
K

I'm not sure if your referencing Troy now, but that was a great movie, aside from being untrue to the story (I hesitate to use historically inaccurate since these are just stories) it was all around great, choices for the actors especially Brad Pitt and Eric Bana were perfect.

But 300 is meant to entertain, as is Troy not to be nazi and stay true to ever single detail.

Helen of Troy was a pre-Troy movie. Based more on the Helen aspect. I personally didn't like it much, but to each his own.

numbers aside, it was still basically 1,400 men against 5,283,220.... and they stood the test to the very end of their lives. Thats an epic battle no matter how you look at it.

Spartans didn't exactly wear armor. They went in for the heroic style of fighting, with as little armor as possible to show their enemy they were badass..

well, as long as were making movies with no pretext to historical meaning...

Alexander versus Leonidas: The battle of Waterlou Part Duex

And Dam, I don't see them wearing any armor in the previews, just the shields and helms they're famous for....

Believe me, Kayla, I sympathize and agree whole heartedly. Well, at least mostly whole heartedly. I quite enjoyed Frank Millers original graphic but, yes, the artwork was a tad overblown but the paints and lines are very typical of Miller and Varley.

I think the movie will tell an excellent story and will present itself as eye-candy wrapped up in a great blockbuster bundle. But I agree with you and I also prefer historically accurate portrayals of events such as above. I prefer them, but that is not to say that I cannot enjoy the artists representation for what it is. And, of course, it'll make more money this way.

(Compare the net profits from Petersons Troy and Hallmarks Helen of Troy)

But I'm not trying to debate the issue. My proposal is that historical films can be very good and so can inaccurate "historical fiction".

Speaking of which, aside from Televisions Rome... I'm waiting with baited breath for the new Beowulf and Grendle story; "Beowulf (2007)"

Gerard Butler's Beowolf and Grendel was good.