Legacies: Alpha Ex Omega (OOC)
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  • Posted On: Aug 16 2005 4:14pm
Irritating News Stuff?
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  • Posted On: Aug 17 2005 9:44am
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Anyway.

I've done the rough outline for Vance and TSO, for those of you who wish to get a copy, please PM me or contact me over IM.
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  • Posted On: Aug 24 2005 12:32am
Wow. I come back and the Rogue Jedi Order is being dissolved. That's delicious. Not to mention now I am also behind in my posting thanks to this stupid school.
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  • Posted On: Aug 26 2005 10:35pm
Wait... who's actually going to do the speaking at the funeral? The eulogy?

I would guess either Vos as he's a master or Leia (thus, Omnae) since she's kind of still the boss.
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  • Posted On: Aug 26 2005 10:42pm
Not of RJO, though. I would have Ahnk do it since he's a Rogue Master.
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  • Posted On: Aug 26 2005 10:48pm
Hm, good point.
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  • Posted On: Aug 27 2005 3:45am
I was thinking more of some Aesthenian (sp?) spiritual guide or whatever since he is sort of a demigod of their planet, so something that appeals to them with everyone else in respective presence..


But giving everyone a chance to "say their peace" over the character wouldn't be a bad idea.

I think that the Jedi Order would be run by a Council of Masters. Leia may have been the only Master at one point but now there's Vodo and now Silus. So, the ranks of the Council are growing.
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  • Posted On: Aug 27 2005 3:25pm
By the way, I had this idea for something the jedi could do during the story.

Perhaps, at the end of the funeral, all the Jedi of the various divisions meet and make a commitment to become more active, to remember Gash and the way he took action as an example. However, over the ten years between now and the rest of the story, not only does that commitment die but the Jedi itself seem to break up.

However, this is not so. A small group of masters and other Jedi remain, and manipulate the lightside to defeat Simon and his plans - if you'll remember my 'Gandalf Figure' thread, these Jedi could be like the other strategist, the one set against Kaine in a game of chess.


It could be those Jedi who suggest to Regrad to surrender, only to regroup when the time is right. Those Jedi who counsel the Coalition fleet to leave the Coalition when Regrad surrenders, so that they would have the necessary forces when the Coalition un-surrenders. These Jedi could even manipulate other Jedi of the order who 'lose the faith' in that ten year period, gathering them for the vital information-gathering mission to one of the Imperial occupied world and such things.

This small group of elite Jedi could reveal the truth about their manipulations just before the final battle between Kaine and his enemies, and the ensuring explination could be an excellent opportunity to make philosophical points about the difference between manipulation and guidance, not to mention develope characcters.
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  • Posted On: Aug 27 2005 4:06pm
I like that idea, Dolash. Very good indeed. I'd like Vodo to be a part of that.
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  • Posted On: Aug 27 2005 4:46pm
I don't see why you have to have the Jedi break up over the ten years. As a matter of fact, the Death of Gash Jiren was supposed to solidify the Jedi and give them direction.


Still, to rebuilt their Order or redesign their Order to be more effective in a galaxy that's changed.

So I would think that the next 10 years would be building up the trust in their Order...

I mean, saying that the public trusts you based on actions from the Old Jedi Order under the Old Republic is not a bit farfetched. What have the Jedi done recently?

Secret missions don't help the public trust them.

So the next ten years, as you are already working towards, the Jedi will become a major visible entity within the GC to be the defenders of truth and justice.

It is a reputation, in 10 years, will have been earned so when, if you want it to be the Jedi that recommend to Regrad he surrender, he has a background of trust in them to actually carry it out.

At first I wanted that critical decision to be from Regrad as leader of the GC. It played well with the dynamics of your faction especially since it would be a decision that Logan and the other military leaders would probably not agree with.

But if you want the decision to come from a Jedi, then to make the story convincing, you have to build on why would Regrad trust the Jedi to a decision that not only affects him but the billions of lives under him?

I mean, no matter much you trust your friend, if he tells you to jump off a cliff and not to worry because you'll be alright, you will still hesitate with a certain unknown because as the facts are in your mind, you'll go *splat*.

So for Regrad to actually push the agenda of the Jedi in surrendering, it will be quite a leap of faith..especially since the military may feel betrayed and blow a gasket at the move.

So, to build that trust, I would not have just a little group of elite jedi doing secret missions. And then they suggest a GC surrender and Regrad agrees.

Your people and military will definitely not go for it.. they won't understand and you'll have instant revolution overnight with Regrad dead and maybe your elite Jedi.

Because there was no trust built up. The Jedi name alone will not sustain trust. The Jedi name will have people look favorably upon something but trust is built with action. And if people don't know, or can't see the action happening in their behalf (as would be the case of elite jedi doing secret missions), the Jedi name alone will not sustain a surrender decision in the face of an Imperial advance on their homes.

The idea of it working with Regrad is that he would have been leading the GC for close to 15 years... he would be a known quantity... from mistakes in the past as well as triumphs. So the people deal with him from a position of first hand knowledge. Not name recognition of an agency that is headquarterded outside the GC and has not been a major player in GC.

I would think these 10 years should be used to establish (at least in the GC) that the Jedi are back as the guardians of peace and justice and are concerned with the galaxy's affairs rather than their own agendas.