Yeah.

No.

Yossarian

way to go kas, you now have now spent years overcoming odds and biology -- only to still be a virgin and have only had one girlfriend. ever. oh dear me.

Yeah, because I really enjoy getting to know someone, becoming close, opening up, learning to trust them and then scarring my heart and hurting her as I move on to the next girl because I was stupid and got deep into the relationship before I was ready. Is there any real advantage to having been in multiple relationships? How long until your actions in the relationship become robotic? How many girls until what you say and what you do isn't really you, but merely a façade put on to snare a hot girl for a few nights of sex? How long until you can't truly be honest with the girl because you expect the relationship to end eventually? Is it better to move from girlfriend to girlfriend to girlfriend, enjoy passionate nights and romantic dinners yet at the same time loose your ability to be honest, open, and close to someone because you don't want to be hurt again? Maybe you like doing that, but I don't and won't. I have no desire at all to do that to myself, and even less to do that to anyone else. If you like that, fine, but don't ridicule me for holding myself to a set of standards that both she and I believe will save us pain.

Is there any real advantage to having been in multiple relationships?

Uhh, experiance really. Woman are a freakin confusing quantity, especially if you consider them to be men with breasts and minus cocks.

How many girls until what you say and what you do isn't really you, but merely a façade put on to snare a hot girl for a few nights of sex?

7.

Actually probably 0. Most people tend to embelish their stories, and couple that with the fact that the way people look when they're trying to get a mate is complete bullshit relative to how they look in the morning, means that it takes nothing (usually) for said lies to occur.

Is it better to move from girlfriend to girlfriend to girlfriend, enjoy passionate nights and romantic dinners yet at the same time loose your ability to be honest, open, and close to someone because you don't want to be hurt again?

No, but fact remains that in order to fully understand oneself and ones needs/requirements from a relationship you must engage in numerous (both beneficial and not) liasons.

You may think you know what you want, but its probably wrong. (then again, if you are correct in knowing what you want, congratufuckinglations, you're ten steps ahead of the rest of us).

If you like that, fine, but don't ridicule me for holding myself to a set of standards that both she and I believe will save us pain.

I would never ridicule your beliefs Kas, in fact i have a certain respect for them.

But that having been said, i think my above points still stand.

You cannot know what exactly what you want without having experianced something other than what you want. While i don't doubt the possibility of find ones 'true love' on their first try, the odds aren't stacked in your favour bro...

Different strokes, different folks, and all that jazz. Some people are all about long term commitment and true love, others sharing the love around. I don't think there's any right or wrong way to go about it. That being said, I certainly wouldn't ridicule anyone for being a virgin or not having been in numerous relationships or being a virgin at age 18. It's not like there's any rush.

My ex Tom didn't lose his virginity till he was twenty two. There's nout at all wrong with waiting, in my eyes. I wish I'd waited longer. And Titus I think it's great you feel that way towards your girlfriend. I'd much rather be in a relationship with someone commited than someone who cares about the sex and nothing more.

your ability to deceive yourself kas is, as always, mystifying. (as is your ability to convince yourself that only you are capable of thinking or feeling.)

Uhh, experiance really. Woman are a freakin confusing quantity, especially if you consider them to be men with breasts and minus cocks.

I don't want the memory of previous girls interfearing with a current relationship, and I'm not really bothered by the lack of experience.

I know how confusing women can be (the line of "dangit, can't you think logically for one second" has come out of my mouth more than once, heh...) . I don't, however, feel the need to learn about them from girl to girl. I figure they're like men, and they're all different.

I would never ridicule your beliefs Kas, in fact i have a certain respect for them.

But that having been said, i think my above points still stand.

That comment was directed at Yossarian, who seems to feel the innate requirement to make fun of anything I do or believe in at any turn, simply because it's me. He doesn't seem to think about my opinions; rather, he just dismisses them out of hand.

You cannot know what exactly what you want without having experianced something other than what you want. While i don't doubt the possibility of find ones 'true love' on their first try, the odds aren't stacked in your favour bro...

I think you've got some good points, but .... I don't agree. Maybe engaging in numerious relationships will help someone figure out what they need in a relationship, but I think half the fun is finding out with someone special. And, it's my opinion that it's not really what I get from our relationship, but what I can give her. I enjoy making her happy, which IMO is perfect.

On top of this, I don't know if I believe in 'true love'. Love in and of itself is not something to build a relationship on. You can fall out of love just as easily as you can fall into it. Since love obscures faults, you're going to be blind to your SO's problems if you dive into a relationship based on it. Maybe some people fall into love and never fall out, and maybe that's what 'True Love' is. I don't know. I just think it would be pretty stupid to commit heavily to someone based on what could be a brief infatuation.

Hmm...As Girl and I were talking about the other night, Marriage isn't the ultimate goal anymore. Our mindset places marriage as one of the big stepping stones, something to be aimed for. But most people don't. Sex, to us, is something to be saved. Most people I know don't consider it to be. I consider that to be an assbackwards mindset, but they consider me to be a stickinthemud conservative. Meh.

Anyhow, I'm off. Gotta pick up Girl, finish checking over the Suburban, pack my guitar, and hit the road. Later, all!

Have a good trip!