Dolash, Of course their must be a battle going on around Corellia. Your First Fleet was attacking it. And there would have been a battle going on around Tralus/Talus had you actually moved to take the worlds. Your First Fleet would naturally have assumed the 2nd was locked in combat around Tralus/Talus.
However, as shaky the reasoning is, we are not contesting that.


Now given the whole bit about your 2nd fleet being there, then not being there, then jumping into the fight, then not.... while 2nd fleet's coming has been known for like a month now, perhaps it would have been nice to remind Telan, in his post before the last that he can't turn his ships to incoming reinforcements if TNO did not know they were coming.

Either way, his ship's position would not have changed much. You are saying your ships are way far away outside gun ranges (though not sensor ranges) so fine.

However, quotes like this leave much to question:

I know what you are going to say, but I want to hear them. We are still quite out of range, but if we get there and they have still refused to answer, fire all guns and re-block communication.

So the question becomes, just how far out are you even though you claim to be "quite out of range"?

Are your ships moving quickly to cover the distance? Once Regrad says what he says, a few seconds after that point does he cross the threshold of gun range?

It seems so if (in the few seconds of IC time it takes to respond to communications) TNO does not respond you will open fire.

Since Theren didn't answer the comm, perhaps Telan thought your ships were suddenly in range (since they are in motion).


hmm.. wait.


Actually, as I reread your post you say "We are still quite out of range, but if we get there and they have still refused to answer, fire all guns..."


So the range is not linked to the time it takes to answer. My mistake.



So yes, you are quite out of range. Which means even if no one in TNO responds to your comm in this round of posting, that DOES NOT mean that your ships will have crossed into range or will be able to fire on TNO since they are still "quite out of range" though not as "quite out of range" as the previous post.

heh.


You say, by the time your guys get into range, if we have not responded then yada yada yada...

I interpret this to mean that your fleet is perhaps at the very edge of Corellian space (since your fleet is not just "out of range" but "quite out of range"). It may take you several posts to get within range (unless you microjump [which would be a highly aggressive maneuver]) so TNO has time to formulate an answer (should they so desire).

Lup brings about a very good point tho. Telan could be persuaded to retract his firing on your ships. But if, in your next post, you "suddenly come into range" then it will throw out completely your arguement on just how far away you are.


So, if TNO decides to wait one round of posting before answering you, and you decide to open fire in your next post (or that is your intention), then I would say Telan's firing and damages should stand.

Why? Because he was already in motion in that direction before you appeared.

How would he know you are coming? Messages from Tralus/Talus (as the Empire is frantically trying to figure out the outcome of Corellia Question) and warnings are intercepted with the trajectory of 2nd Fleet leaving at real space speeds (in the beginning) towards Corellia.

How can TNO fleet receive these messages? They must be able to since they can receive messages from your 2nd Fleet and 1st Fleet is no longer an issue.

Maybe you think this reasoning weak. But it's no weaker than the reasons for bringing the 2nd Fleet to Corellia in the first place.

However, Telan will be talked to about removing his attack.

Well, can't argue with that logic. All I ask is that Telan and Imperials can't fire on me THIS TURN. Hell, despite the massive stratiegic blow I would suffer, I'd agree to let you guys draw first blood on the second so long as You take a round to consider my proposition (That's why I'm arguing, because Telan's attack would destroy any such propositions' chances of being heard.)

I got a bit lost in what you were saying, but I think the gist of it was I can't fire next round, even if I move full forwards. And in return You guys can't fire this round, because you are still out of range and thus you will have a round to consider my propostion. Then next round (after I've gone but still am not in range) you get to fire first. Is that it?

I think that if you somehow get in range Dolash it would be reasonable that you only do so at the end of your post and therefore you do mimimal damage for that post.

I have no problem with that Dolash. We can hear the proposition out.

Telan can edit his firing out since you do claim to be out of range.

ok, sounds good.

Well, that was rather pleasently dealt with.

I apologize for my brazen behavior
nI have edited.

So, how's the Galaxy going to view this battle, you think? Coalition's folly? Massive bloodbath? Will it end with one big graveyard?

I personally feel either it'll end soon with an accepted truce to disucss peace or in a month or two when both sidea are completely destroyed. And everyone will just view it as a pity and a bloody mess.

Like a pheonix rising from the ashes, Anthos will claim the galaxy as its own?

...no. I don't see that.

Kiyar sees it as a waste of life.