After reading Telan's post I must agree with Mr. Vontra's case.

I described our (The Second Fleet's, the manifest is on page one along wit the firsts') location as "Well out of range." This means that no foe could reach us. This is not selective, it means NO FOE, including Mr. Delesari's. Also, I asked many times how you would know that there was a second fleet, and indeed how you would know exactly where it was coming from. These issues were not adressed.

I am merely saying this because to allow such an attack now would A) mean that my entire last post was founded upon incorrect information, because had I known that we were INDEED going to end up within firing range of Mr. Delesari's forces so soon, I would have fired upon them. Infact, I had to edit my attack because it was said that the Imperials were beyond my reach. Also, B) I decided to put myself at a disadvantage to offer you guys a diplomatic option, and such a pointless (and in the end, suicidal) attack would only succeed to disrupt it. I am losing my will to continue fighting and I would enjoy finding a way to stage some sort of cease-fire agreement.

But if you were moving towards us and he started moving towards you...

It's spelled Desaria!!!!, Mr Docolax.

I have been in my current formation for two or three posts, each one stating that your ships were moving towards mine and mine towards yours. I would like to think you would have issued orders to the effect that you would be maneuvering to assume a more cohesive formation than one coming out of hyperspace - to do so would put you in the role of Gregori Yumarov who refused to order his divisions into defensive positions when the Germans crossed the border.

They were moving towards you in hyperspace. You were moving words them in real space. There is a big relitivistic difference in speeds here.

Arriving out of range, is out of range no matter how it is hashed out.

Vonta, WTF are you talking about?

They arrived out of hyperspace and began moving forward. Telan's ships moved to meet them.

Obviously, at some point, they'll be in range of one another!

Thank you. Unless, of course, you are moving away from my force and the Imperial armada amassing behind it, in whcih case you would indeed be out of range.

But, that would be a withdrawal....

AND HOW THE FIRK DID YOU KNOW WE WERE COMING, AND FROM THIS EXACT DIRECTION???

Sorry about the caps, but you've been avoiding this question for some time.

Anyways, assuming you knew, I showed up LAST POST and moved forwards LAST POST and was still "Well out of range". Meaning that you would not reach AND fire on me in your next post. Come on, you guys always win these sort of arguments, lay off why don't you? I was out of range in my last post and did I ever say "But by the end of the post, that had changed and we were now nice and cozily nearly in range?" I think not.

This is one of those issues where there are little facts due to the fact that I didn't think it was an issue because I thought simply stating WE WERE OUT OF RANGE assured that we would remain that way, at least until my next post. Arn't these events concurrent anyways?

We probably knew in about the same way you knew about your first fleet being screwed (which is the only reason your second fleet is here). And it was a question you yourself avoided.

Also, just because you make yourself out of range doesn't stop people moving into range. If your definition of 'well out of range' means you can move into attack on your next post, then obviously our definitions are very different. And in similar fashion, we simply pre-empted what you yourself were going to do in a vain effort to get first blood.

AND HOW THE FIRK DID YOU KNOW WE WERE COMING, AND FROM THIS EXACT DIRECTION???

Sorry about the caps, but you've been avoiding this question for some time.

I would like this question answered with IC backing, not a 'probably we knew this that and the other', please.

Anyways, assuming you knew, I showed up LAST POST and moved forwards LAST POST and was still "Well out of range".

I'm going to agree with Dolash, if he said well out of range to me I would assume he meant he's a heafty distance out of range. If he would be within firing range in one minute, I would assume he would have said 'coming in range in --:-- minutes, Sir" instead of 'well out of range'. Note he did address this, like so...

I was out of range in my last post and did I ever say "But by the end of the post, that had changed and we were now nice and cozily nearly in range?" I think not.

This is one of those issues where there are little facts due to the fact that I didn't think it was an issue because I thought simply stating WE WERE OUT OF RANGE assured that we would remain that way, at least until my next post. Arn't these events concurrent anyways?

I would assume simply stating that you were well out of range would protect you until one side mentioned coming into range, yes.

I answered the question, Lup. I explained that Regrad was a capable officer, and once he realized there were no enemies around Talus/Tralus yet someone was blocking his communcations, then there must be battle going on around Corellia. Other reasons (should more be needed) could range from a need to reach first to discuss what to do (what with their communcations cut off, from the First and from many Coalition Planets), to just plain gut feeling (Well, this isn't a reason but it definetly sounds dramatic in a story.)

Anyways, what's the word on this?