Hmm. For some reason I've always assumed that all ships had them. A predicament, this is.

Everyone has always assumed ships have particle shields. Otherwise a rock the size of a gold ball could rip a hole in the ship, and probably through the ship if the ship was in hyperspace. They aren't all as powerful as others, but it stands to reason all warships have pretty powerful particle shields, because missiles have always been used. The rebels(people who designed the Republic Star Destroyer) would especially realise this, because of the extent of damage they have caused with missiles (Death Stars, SSD, ISDs, VSDs all destroyed or defeated by missiles).

My extra fighters(See an above ooc post):

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And my ships actual carry more fighters(RSD carries 6 squads, Firewinds each carry 6). I didn't launch them all at the begining because with too many fighters after a small group things would just get confusing for my pilots. I'll responds ASAP, once you acknowledge this post.
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They followed the missile boats, but didn't get in range of them. They only scored hits when your fighters were still really close to my RSD, right after my remaining fighters launched.

I'll say they launched just after the proton torps hit, so I didn't get one shot off at your missile boats (once you acknowledge and agree), so we won’t have the ‘being put back up right before the torps hit’ problem. As well, no damage to your missile boats.

None of my ships have the Elite, as I have yet to actually post upgrading them (either not enough time, or forgetting to). As well, once I do upgrade them, I will include a manifest at the bottom of my normal manifest with the amount of ships that have it.

No Dolash didn’t do that, but I’m taking into account the combined damages (all your starchasers were shield less, 2 already destroyed) and I put percentages on the things. It’s not my fault you didn’t fire on any of my ships (with the exception of the Firewind) until this post. Had you started your damage earlier, you would probably be winning, however because you didn’t, and I did, it stands to reason I have an advantage.

It does back up the line "Intesify foreward firepower!" if they were using their weapons as a makeshift particle sheild to screen against materials...

Everyone has always assumed ships have particle shields.

I don't agree. In my opinion, unless a ship is tstaed to have particle shields, it doesn't. Why? Well i spent all of today watching the orginal trilogy, and a few things occured to me:

1) In Empire Strikes Back, the Imperiaal forces moving into the asteropid feild are forced open fire ont he asteroids. Why would they do this if they were safe behind particle sheilds?

2) If particle shields were so prevalent, then why didn't the Executor, a mighty Super Star Destroyer have them? Its obvious it didn't, because in Return of the Jedi, an A-Wing crashes into its bridge and sends it careenining into the Death Star. However, how did the A-Wing get in, if particle sheilds protected the SSD?

They aren't all as powerful as others, but it stands to reason all warships have pretty powerful particle shields, because missiles have always been used.

In all the fleet combat in the three movies, there is almost no use of missiles, or torpedoes. With the exception of the destruction of the Death Star, starfighters predominatly fought with lasers. Why?

1)The Imperial TIEs couldn't fire trops or missiles.
2)The rebels had only a limitied supply, and used them only in critical situations

Also, the capital starships fought with lasers, tubolasers and ion cannons. Every warship you see, both in cannon, developed here on TRF and otherwise, has a greater percentage of its weapons as laser/energy weapons. Missiles are an afterthought- they have a limited supply of ammunition, are less accurate, and in many cases are target by specific defensive systems. Missiles, therefore, are not Always used



The fighter part i understand, Thats fine, now that you clarified.

It’s not my fault you didn’t fire on any of my ships (with the exception of the Firewind) until this post. Had you started your damage earlier, you would probably be winning, however because you didn’t, and I did, it stands to reason I have an advantage

Jan, this post was not designed to "win" a fleet engagment. It had a very specific purpose. The pirate forces have been engaging your ships all along. My other forces have done concentrated attacks to serve a purpose. The term "winning" is not just losses and damage inflicted, not always.

ABout damages. My damages seem fine- you said you'd knock of the missile boat damage, and I can easily except the ISD down to 35% shields.

Your damages of:

1 Firewind disabled
1 X-Xwing destroyed

is also fine.

However, the damages to your RSD are what I am contesting. A close range barrage from 6 cygnus misile boats would be devestating to about any warship- but even more so to something devoid of particle sheilds. The sheild damage, from the ISD turbolasers, leaving at 70 percent is acceptable.

However, such a barrage would wreck havoc on the hull or a warship. It would probably cripple the bridge and make the ship fight at a significantly reduced effectivness.



Just my thoughts. Staff and other opinions are happily recieved.

Goes back to when they destroyed the shield generators

2) If particle shields were so prevalent, then why didn't the Executor, a mighty Super Star Destroyer have them? Its obvious it didn't, because in Return of the Jedi, an A-Wing crashes into its bridge and sends it careenining into the Death Star. However, how did the A-Wing get in, if particle sheilds protected the SSD?

Don't make me go get Dace Patton.

2) If particle shields were so prevalent, then why didn't the Executor, a mighty Super Star Destroyer have them? Its obvious it didn't, because in Return of the Jedi, an A-Wing crashes into its bridge and sends it careenining into the Death Star. However, how did the A-Wing get in, if particle sheilds protected the SSD?

NERDS.

1) In Empire Strikes Back, the Imperiaal forces moving into the asteropid feild are forced open fire ont he asteroids. Why would they do this if they were safe behind particle sheilds?

Why bother disarming a criminal if you have a bullet proof suit on?

2) If particle shields were so prevalent, then why didn't the Executor, a mighty Super Star Destroyer have them? Its obvious it didn't, because in Return of the Jedi, an A-Wing crashes into its bridge and sends it careenining into the Death Star. However, how did the A-Wing get in, if particle sheilds protected the SSD?

Shield generators were destroyed on the Executor.

In all the fleet combat in the three movies, there is almost no use of missiles, or torpedoes. With the exception of the destruction of the Death Star, starfighters predominatly fought with lasers. Why?

The reasons you stated, as well as one I begin to think holds water. Imperial jamming technology had gotten so powerful that missiles were useless over long ranges.

So Kas, what say ye.

About the damages to the RSD.

Missiles are heavily used in the books.

And they used their guns on the asteroids because their shields were powerful enough to compete with a full asteroid field, with some the size of a small moon (bigger then their ship). As well it was more safe if the Falcon suddenly shot out and bombarded them with missiles, because otherwise their particle shields would be down.

The Pirate forces have been going after the transports, and you don't even have a Kaloth Cruiser in your manifest, so evidentally (unless it was lent to you) it can't cause damage to my ships.