Note then why we have a planet called the Forge, a hidden shipyard and factory world. Silly Governments, you think we didn't anticipate paper trails? :D

I understand you're making a spirited attempt, but I don't think I can emphasize how dead your forces would be right now.

It takes quite some time to deploy tens of thousands of men, especially if they have to be dethawed first. Not only that, but they'd have to drop shields (At least particle shields, and we use particle weapons). The Dreadnoughts are thus being pounded, and your forces would not be enough to pierce the natural army (not a militia, an army) and seize a city.

I guess my point is that you can certainly fight, and kill, and maybe make a little headway, but your forces are trapped - a half-dozen frigates dumping Particle Projector shots into a tiny space would probably leave little but craters. To get any more than a thousand of your men to force their way into the comparative shelter of the caves would be a miracle.

I know it doesn't seem fair, but my forces are set to crush you here. I felt that point needed to be emphasized right now.

Y'know. I'm sure that some American General in Iraq said the same thing....

Doesn't seem fair? This whole thing hasn't seemed fair since the deployment of a superior fleet within a matter of days of a missile attack when I would assume most of your forces would be going towards the war effort with BDE, nor the sudden construction of a research bunker within a matter of days. If you want to play with technicalities, try this. Your fleet shouldn't even be there, your research facility shouldn't be there, it should have only been the Kubaz. Even if a fleet were to be sent, don't you imagine it would take a little more time considering how scattered your territories are? But fine, I'll edit and give you something to really chew on.

Btw, that's a load of bull about the Kubaz even having something close to a standing army. The species is factionalized, yes, but they don't fight eachother, they haven't for ages. There is no real united government on Kubaz and thus no real army so, in fact, they are militias. Besides, GC membership took away the need for any form of real army of their own.

Im still saying the Phage hit, at best, an hour ago. As such, Id also like to say, Im in no way going to allow you to just defeat the phage in an IC day. A week sounds ridiculous as well.

Estro, I can see you feel passionately, but your questions can all be answered.

Firstly - the Azguard fleet was intended to be sent to the East to protect it while the Eastern Fleet was away. They did not mobilize upon hearing of the missile attack, or any other attack, they were instead called up and sent to arrive shortly into the onset of the war. Do you think me fool enough to send the army away entirely and have my nations left undefended? The Azguards maintain their own provincial forces, and as such are not part of the offensive effort.

Next is the construction time for the lab. It's possible you're thinking of this in the wrong light - it isn't some sort of iron-bound fortress, a lot of it is pre-fab stuff or mass-produced, the only heavy part being the bunker, and I assumed in the Star Wars galaxy, between technology and robots and stuff such a building could be quickly built in an emergency.

There is no indication in your thread or in Wicked when the attack would take place in the timeline of the war, so I chose to assume it was a couple days in, as the missile attack seemed to happen fairly quickly into the war wheras the contacting of mercenaries, negotiation of a deal, and deployment of such forces to battle would surely take days - The first Union attack (with Tir) was prefaced by a meeting with the leaders of the Union, and to gather then then send them on their way would take days at least, although Tir described it as weeks.

I admit, timeline is always nebulous, but as there was no set decision I just decided straight out that it would be a few days. If this was unsatisfactory, why did you not specify a timeline for yourself (like saying it was a few hours after the missiles) or argue it in OOC until now?

Lastly, the standing army - which I assure you, is no 'Load of Bull'. The Kubindi have been described as having shipbuilding abilities in past takeovers, and in fact were conquered in war by the Tynnans before both planets joined the Coalition. The Coalition operates much like a more powerful United Nations, meaning that Kubindi is more or less its' own country. As the war has mostly required only ships from them, in terms of ground forces their army would still be present.

It's a planet, it does have a united government under the Coalition, and a population to match its' importance - and any large population would have an army, a national guard, etc. Teth and Mon Calamari are providing the majority of the ground troops, so the Kubaz are mostly still home.

That's my reasoning for the points you brought up. Battles aren't always completely fair, is my point - though if possible I like to ensure both sides have a chance. The Coalition is prepared, though, and you cannot expect to win simply forcing through our lines and dumping troops straight at us, for they will simply become target practice.

Oh, and Heir - I don't intend to beat the Phage in a day, but it isn't yet your place to call anything ridiculous, as I haven't done anything yet about the research. Once we really get down to it, then we can talk about progress.

As a conclusion, I will just clarify that though I respect the Union's creativity and especially your passion and skill, Estro, your tactics are not effective with the forces you have against the forces you're facing. The Necrotroopers would take time to deploy from cryo-freeze, giving us time to destroy the Dreadnoughts with air-supremacy. Also, though individually tough, by trying to force your way down a tunnel that the natives have defended before will give much the same effect of the American Army during the Vietnam war trying to force its' way through a thick jungle. We might not be as prepared as the Vietnamese, but with superior standing forces and a much smaller bottleneck. All I'm saying is that you're writing as if you're brushing these bothersome gnats to one side and plunging on to victory, when really your forces are inadequetly supported to make large gains.

We've been doing well so far, so I don't want to fall out here - maybe talking on AIM will resolve the issue? My AIM's Dolash02.

My interpertation of the timeline is as such:



GC declares war

BDE contacts Union

Meeting on the Midas

GC Launches spearhead attacks

Union attacks Tammar

BDE fires Phages

Azguard fleet repondes to Kubindi

Union force attacks Kubindi.




I imagined perhaps two days or so would have passed from the first strike of Phage until the arrival of the Union fleet at Kubindi.

The Union attack at Tammar would have been about a day before the BDE phage launch, roughly.



That may or may not be correct, just my general indication.

Well, considering the Azguard fleet made it to the East at the time of the Tammar attack, and very shortly (matter of hours) thereafter arrived all across, that'd mean we'd have at least a few days to be there. I'm not sure about how many days here or there, though.

Either way, I feel that the privilege of having a large governmental force is being abused in some way since ships aren't kept track of anymore. So the Union gets the raw deal because you can just suddenly call in reinforcements or deploy a bigger force. But whatever, I'll edit. Obviously you have your points made and my inferior force is going to get wiped out so excuse me while I go off and stew over this.