Brutus' takeover (split from planets list)
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  • Posted On: Oct 7 2004 2:41am
http://therebelfaction.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4275

Thread now encompasses over 12K words

Please add:

Sestria

to the Belgardi Ltd Subgroup
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  • Posted On: Oct 7 2004 5:20am
It would be nice if you would, in some way, involve the planet you are taking over in the thread itself...


Blow something up on it or something...
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  • Posted On: Oct 7 2004 6:17am
The rules do state that the name of the planet being taken has to be in the title... this is, I admit, a fairily relaxed rule (mostly, I think, designed for hostile takeovers). Most people will mention it at the very beginning of the RP with an OOC statement, especcially in cases of multiple takeovers. I think it's to be expected that the planet be mentioned, never mind involved, in a takeover. Plus your attacking other groups with this RP, so it's ability to also be a takeover is, imo, in question.
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  • Posted On: Oct 7 2004 6:28am
You pulled the same shit last time and we didn't like it then, either.
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  • Posted On: Oct 7 2004 11:37am
I realize that I have used the same tactic last time. No one ever had expressed anger over it, though it may just not have been stated.

I usually do mention the planet I take- I was just getting tired of finishing this post, I forgot to change Sat Skar for Sestria- I had made a note to do that, but that post was becoming tiresome and I forgot.

If you would like me to edit my attack on Stak Skar into one on Sestria I will gladly do so.

Also- Drayosn- you claim my attacking of people makes this thread unusuable for any takeover.

I ask you what actuall, OOC damage I have done to any world with any terrorist attack? What permentant damage is done by any of this- that constitues an "attack" on any faction.

None.

They are storyline posts. Not a single action will have any bearing on how big the Imperial Fleet grows too. It won't delay your ships by a second, or divert 1 meter worth of resources.
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  • Posted On: Oct 7 2004 4:59pm
Just because it's OOC it doesn't mean it has no baring on the rules. I could destroy any one of your planets and make the same claim, since an asteroid field is equally valuable for raw resources as a planet proper.
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  • Posted On: Oct 7 2004 5:30pm
The rules state that the planet name should be on the title line... however, other than making a totally new thread, I see no way to edit the actual title line of a thread and so I am not so big on this rule. But the planet you are taking should be mentioned in the actual roleplay.

I don't care what the subject is you write about but do mentioned the world you intend to take.

So, I don't mind if you change the name of the planet but I think that it will be more than a simple matter of switching Sat Skar for Sestria in that I (think) you mentioned stuff regarding Kraken's takeover.



Still, my advice, if you are getting tired of a thread... just leave it. You already got a planet from the words anyway.. A better to walk away and start a new fresh thread that keeps your interest than beating a dead one.

I have at least 3 threads going that I am not using for planets: Yesterday's Pain..., Themein War, and Axioms (this is a slow one)..


Methinks you are trying to squeeze too much out of your thread for efficiency and if efficiency is your motivation, you won't have motivation for long imo.
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  • Posted On: Oct 7 2004 9:56pm
Of course I would change the nature of the attack- the planets differ greatly.


And my statment about that post being tiresome was a bit off- I have several things interesting planned in that storyline...... but I several of the previous post mentioned a major attack in the planning stage and so I had to write one.

To spell out the usual GLF symbolism, I had to do an unusually large number of planets (8) and there are only so many different varaitons of what a terrorist attack can be.

If you read the thread (which I'm sure you have) the first 3 or four attacks are IMO well written or at least better than as the post trails on. I was stretching for conent in the last 3 or 4 planets, and that is reflected in their shorter length and poorer quality.

I know that squeezing efficency out of a thread can weaken it, but Upheaval is a large part of my planet taking strategy. When you don't have 80+ planets, you have more luxury to write long posts that don't conquer worlds. However, I think that sometimes planetary takeover threads become dull, reptetive ideas and are poor reads that don;t mesh well into larger storylines. Upheaval is supposed to be (marginably) readable and maybe even enjoyable, while providing a reward for its efforts, and advancing along a planned out storyline.

The next few post have little to do with terrorist attacks, and thus I am excited to write them- it was just that one paticular post (which was over 2000 words long) that got tiresome, which lead to my error.


Finally- Drayson, your point about destroying planets is comparing apples and oranges. First, barring the Empire's Eclipse, you can't destory worlds. Even if you chose to use the Eclipse, you would have to allow a response as you were using an OOC asset to attack a planet. Nearly all of my terrorist attacks use non-OOC assests.

They are bombings or ambushes. They have no effect on anything other than the story line, on which they may or may not cause changes. On the other hand- destroying a planet not only effects the storyline majorly (besides being against the rules) it implys an OOC attack- which is totally different than the Upheaval thread(s).
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  • Posted On: Oct 7 2004 10:17pm
Couple of Side Notes here. The realm of OOC and IC is very thin except of course to people who are either meticolous bean counters, or else people who don't Role Play for the purpose of Role Playing. To say that some done IC doesn't have an impact on OOC assets, well, partly true, but mostly wrong. For example, a takeover of an enemy ship, although it would have an impact on OOC assets, could be done entirely with ships and people that exist ICly.

Oh, and another point, technically, is than an Eclipse SSD can only crack a planet's crust. It still makes it unihabitable for a while, but it can eventually be habitated again. And in one piece.
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  • Posted On: Oct 8 2004 12:13am
Engaging other groups in a hostile manner, either IC or OOC, and taking an unconquered world do not go hand in hand, imo. If TNO were in the process of taking the planet, or already owned it, that would be different. You're argument that this has no OOC effect is somewhat true, however: you gain from the thread, OOC, in that you get another planet. The thread is an IC attack on TNO. Therefor, you ARE gaining from an attack on TNO.