New with Questions
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  • Posted On: Dec 4 2005 12:46am
All of your reasons are in what way related to this Pike?
"Jacen Solo is a published character and a trademark of Lucasarts."
What kind of a reason is that!?!
Your opinions on books are irrelevant. The fact still remains that these are cannon examples of time travel and this evidence should not be clouded by your own 'opinion' of anything.
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  • Posted On: Dec 4 2005 1:04am
Everthing in here is opinion.

Don't get nasty with me, I'm being nice and so is everyone else.

Oh, by the way... this is a Public Forum.
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  • Posted On: Dec 4 2005 1:27am
I know. What's that got to do with anything?
I'm not being nasty with you. Just stating simple fact. And calling anyone or anything "PFS" doesn't help matters.
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  • Posted On: Dec 4 2005 1:46am
It the fact that Jacen Solo is made to be 'Near Godlike' as is the rest of the Skywalker family. Why? Because they're central characters that people connect to and are the focus of the story. This doubles to Beff's point that it's a public forum, because we are trying to create a setting where EVERY character is a central character in their own way and therefore we must keep things balanced.

Basically, it is the worry that your time travel ability will just result in pain and suffering and although you claim you will not God Mod, it is the fact that you are NEW TO TRF. I will accent this point. I myself had 6 years of previous RP experience and had to take a while to convert to the TRF standard so please bear with us and you can make a smooth transition to an acceptable character.

Another reason this Time Jumping will be seen as troublesome is that it will make adding large things your character does to the official timeline all the more tedious and may just result in us ignore a large variety of what your character does.

FURTHER MORE, the fact you took on a large number of Jedi as a youngling raises many questions. Why? You are a youngling and by TRF standards, that means very limited in power. And if you say 'Just a freak thing of the Force' then I'm sorry, if in one RP you have that as an excuse for two rediculous things you are setting my view from TRF experience with you to a bit more skeptical of your ability as to handle the wide effects that is the time space continuim.
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  • Posted On: Dec 4 2005 1:55am
I think what Beff is trying to get at is that a good chunk of what has happened book wise has yet to, or never occured here in TRF. You mentioned that this is an alternate universe and you are correct: this is an alternate universe and one of our own making. That means what is allowed here is up to the administration and the more experienced members of the board to decide, not George Lucas (or any of the EU writers). If they say time travel is a no no, then it's a no no and will never happen (or at least, not anytime soon)

If I had an idea that I want to try but not sure it would be acceptable, I discuss it with the other members if not the administration. If they disapprove, I would ask for a compromise, and if there's nothing about the idea that can become an acceptable compromise I'd drop it altogether and move on.

The suggestion I gave you in a previous post is a suggested compromise (which of course the admins have a final say on), one where the time traveling is a freak occurance due to the current state of the Force and not an actual talent of your character. That would fly a lot better here then having the actual ability to travel through time at will. From the stance others are taking here, I think it would be in your best interest to consider it seriously.

You're RP is ok so far, but I suggest you be careful with how 'powerful' your character is. Remember what I said about being realistic before: you don't want to be accused of being a god-moder here.

One last note: you don't always get everything you want. Accept what you can get and move on.

edit: *concurs with Itar*
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  • Posted On: Dec 4 2005 2:36am
Thank you both. Indeed, you have hit the heart of the matter in more words.

And it's...

You don't always get what you want
(but if you try)
You might just find you get what you need.

Or something like that.

And still, I say:

Good luck.
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  • Posted On: Dec 4 2005 7:25am
....

If I stay here how long will it take until I'm allowed to write this story?

Other questions:

How are you meant to fight other fleet groups when you don't give a set number of ships? What's preventing anyone from calling up infinite reinforcements and the like? Especially with groups like TNO?

How are you meant to Rp with other people with threads that are closed off to everyone?
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  • Posted On: Dec 4 2005 9:40pm
How long? Unless you are willing to compromise on the Time Travel thing it will likely be a very long time indeed. As I said, there's a storyline going on right now you can use as a reason for the one time freak occurance of time travel, but that won't be going on forever and the Force will eventually return to normal and you will have lost your chance. It's up to you to take it. If you can't bring yourself to accept a compromise on this issue then I'm sorry but you need to learn to let go and accept that you can't have everything.

You seem very determined to keep your character the way you want him to be with no compromise, which from the looks of things means you will not bode well here at all if you persist. Tell me...are you even considering even thinking about a compromise on your character?

As for the other questions:

I don't fleet (currently, that may change once my characters join a group *glances at Jan*), but Fleeting is not a requirement to RP here. I've been here at well over a year (or is it two years?) now and have yet to do a fleet RP. Therefore I can't really answer that question, though I'll hazard a guess to say that I believe it's a sort of honor system. Trust me, any questions about a fleeter's actions are usually brought up in the OOC forumer pretty quick.

First, some people start threads that have (open) in the title, that means anyone can join in if they want to. Second, if you see a thread you want to get in on and doesn't have (Closed) in the title you can ask the thread starter if you can join in. You may also get into RPs that have have specific names in () in the title the same way, but your chances of being accepted in are slimmer. We have threads that are restricted to having just 'anyone' joining because the writer have something specific to write and the more people in it the more likely the storyline will get screwed up. Even with (open) threads you have to be careful to not ruin the storyline when you join in: it's always a good idea to read the whole thread first and ask questions before jumping in.
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  • Posted On: Dec 4 2005 11:23pm
the starting of a fleet is based on the group itself. more so based on the law of 'common sense'. i suggest you stray away from fleeting for now (since your new), you might want to think about creating if not using your current character to get into The New Order. The main reason being is that if you infact join TNO you will gain a substantial amount of fleeting as well as roleplaying experience. Though, as i suggested in the beginning i dont think you want to go into fleeting right away as people will surely attack you verbally if you mess something up.

what you have to understand is that everything in the TRF storyline is very well kept and well said 'proper'. With that in mind, no one wants you to just come in and risk ruining something. sure, you could do your time travel thing in your own roleplays as a 'fan fic'. though, i doubt if you brought your character into a multi-roleplayer story anyone will honor whatever skill, rank, or fleet your character possesses.

if your looking for the easy way to do things, it just wont happen. to become an established character here at TRF it will take atleast 1-3 months of writing before anyone really respects the character's rank or skill.

i hope this helps you out. if not then perhaps you can contact the 'staff action needed' thread which can be found in the OOC Forum to get their attention and guidance. have a good one.
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  • Posted On: Dec 5 2005 12:00am
If I stay here how long will it take until I'm allowed to write this story?


That is entirely up to you, though you seem to be overlooking or otherwise dismissing the obeservations, opionions and suggestions of the other members here abouts. So...

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How are you meant to fight other fleet groups when you don't give a set number of ships? What's preventing anyone from calling up infinite reinforcements and the like? Especially with groups like TNO?


Fleeting is covered in the Rules and you are not endearing youself to anyone with comments like that. But to answer your question; common sense.

I really do hope you can find some way to fit in here at TRF. Good luck.