University of Florida ready for Zombie Threat
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  • Posted On: Feb 12 2010 5:34pm
Park Kraken
Would Nerve Gas (say Sarin) have any effect on a zombie? Or would their undead state pretty much negate any effects that gas would have?


In the book World War Z the Russian military used nerve gas on people escaping from Kiev. It doesn't kill the zombies but when the people that just died get back up, shows you real quick how many of them were actually infected.
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  • Posted On: Feb 12 2010 6:39pm
Personally I'd take an M4 Carbine, maybe the more rugged Mini14 or 30 if that's what I could get. .223 ammo has flat trajectory to 300 yards and you can scope it.
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  • Posted On: Feb 12 2010 8:52pm
Those are both good choices Kach and Corise.

It would depend largely on the situation for me. The problem with .22lr and .410 is the same for both; stopping power. If I were, say, among the last survivors of some cataclysmic event (see: plague/sickness etc) and wouldn't need to worry about blasting hoards of zombies or otherwise possessed individuals I would totally go with an M6 Scout - easy ammo to find, and powerful enough to take down any game you might want to feast on without being wasteful and taking down large prey (see: deer etc) plus it's a rugged little gun, light weight, and super reliable. In that situation, however, I would want a back up... probably a pistol of some sort and if I had my choice, given the ease of use, I would take a larger caliber pistol to keep handy on the off chance that I became the prey for a large predator (see: bear, cougar, etc) and needed to act fast, make a lot of noise, and scare the beasty off. To that end I would probably use a .357 Remington. 9mm ammo is easy to come by in most parts of North America but as any police officer will tell you it comes up short for put-down-punch in a pinch and instead relies on rate of fire.

Now, if we're talking strictly about the Zombie Apocalypse I would want something large caliber with a high rate of fire, ease of use and reliability...

I know it's cliche, but in that situation I would probably opt for the ubiquitous blaster, the AK-47. It has demonstrated reliability - drop it in a lake, run it over with a truck, and it will still pop off rounds and should you come across a jam or misfire it's a remarkably easy firearm (see: long arm) to clear. Second only to .22lr is 7.62 ammo, which has been mass produced since forever. It has good range and decent accuracy and with selective fire, should you find yourself being closed on by a hoard of hungry undead you can pretty much count on me dropping it to hip fire and letting loose.

But even Zombieland shows, as Tallahassee demonstrated time and again, it depends entirely on the type of zombie you're dealing with in which case just about anything can become a weapon.

Don't forget your cardio.
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  • Posted On: Feb 13 2010 5:50am
Everyone can always hope it never comes down to it, but what is everyone's preference for close quarters combat? My preferrable choice would probably either be a bayonet for my .22 rifle or a nice long sword.
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  • Posted On: Feb 13 2010 5:52am
Close quarters during the Zombie Apocalypse? Hmmm...

I'm gonna go with hand-grenades. If I'm gonna go, I'm taking 'em with me.

That, or a banjo.

Zombieland was a great and freaking hilarious movie.
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  • Posted On: Feb 13 2010 5:53am
My weapon of choice would be a heavily metal plated/protected truck that I personally wielded parts onto. I would then ensure I had a snow-plow on the front, and I will use that rather than remain out in the open hoping I'd shoot and hit the hordes of zombies around me.

All I'd need to do is move from fuel station to fuel station as needed, without having to worry about headshots - I'd simply crush them.
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  • Posted On: Feb 13 2010 5:56am
I'm getting my ass to the nearest National Guard Armory and getting me a Humvee and guns/ammo. Probably the least amount of instant zombies in there instead of going to a Wal-Mart, Pawn Shop, actual military base, etc.
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  • Posted On: Feb 13 2010 6:29am
All I'd need to do is move from fuel station to fuel station as needed


The problem, at least in some Zombie scenarios, is that fuel wouldn't always be available. This is the one thing that bothered me about the film, Zombieland. The protagonist states that it is a couple months after the initial outbreak yet everywhere the story takes our group of heroes the power is still on. This would not be the case unless there were enough survivors with the technical expertise to keep the power flowing. Even the Hoover Dam would go offline within about two months, nuclear power plants would be less reliable far sooner.

And that's true with gas. It's stored in below ground tanks which require power to pump the fuel to ground level and unless you know how to go about doing it, getting the gas up with a hand pump is almost impossible and could very well be fatal to those who try and fuck up. The gas in cars would eventually evaporate as well, which is why tanks have release valves triggered by pressure.

So, eventually your luck would run out.

Not to mention that the highest concentration of available fuels tends to be located in heavily industrialized areas. Those industries rely on chemicals and those chemicals rely on trained staff and power to keep contained and safe. Without people to keep the power running, without people to maintain the conditions those chemicals are stored under, they would eventually be released and would turn vast areas in to utter wastelands. Imagine chlorine, among other even more deadly chemicals, which is heavier then air spreading out and moving with the weather wiping out whatever life forms it comes across...

The picture is bleak.

In a true Zombie Apocalypse my ultimate goal would be to build my Bug Out Bag and bug the hell out, just get as far away from civilization as possible. Get somewhere remote and hope that the Zombies can't get to me and wait it out.

Staying and fighting, imho, is a fools errand in the case of the Zombie Apocalypse.
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  • Posted On: Feb 13 2010 8:46am
Staying and fighting, imho, is a fools errand in the case of the Zombie Apocalypse.


Agreed. Get some navigational charts, some fishing gear, find yourself a sailboat workable by one person, and get your butt to a remote island in the Caribbean or somewhere warm year round that has sufficent food and other supplies to sustain you.
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  • Posted On: Feb 13 2010 9:14am
Of course, that raises other questions regarding the exact nature of Zombies...

Are they the kind which, given time, will consume all there is to consume and then die off when the food is all gone?

Are they the unstoppable, demonic undead which need no sustenance and only rampage because of the "spread the plague" imperative?

The answer would have a sizable affect on how one would best respond to the Zombie Apocalypse. If the answer to the first question is yes, then it's just a matter of finding a place to hole-up until things blow over. However, if the answer is yes to the second question then I think no matter what one does one is pretty much screwed because no matter how long you wait... find an island somewhere... they will find you even if it means walking across the bottom of the ocean.

Zombies come in as many myriad manifestations as do Vampires.

Are only the bitten infected? Do the dead rise from their graves? Can you blow their heads off and they stop?