Jay Z attacks female fan who wanted a photo
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  • Posted On: Jun 21 2004 5:44am
Beff Pike
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Given the information posted here (which will be the only information I take into account in this reply)


Implied to me you either didn't see, or were ignoring the video and making decision based merely on the writtern article. If that is not the case, I apologize.
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  • Posted On: Jun 21 2004 5:55am
How can the author know that the supposed entourage 'watched and did nothing' when the clip is only just long enough to show the pair of shoves?


I assumed (easily my mistake) that this would have indicated I had indeed watched the short video clip. I'd also assumed (again, my error) that anyone making such large judgements based on so limited a video, would very likely be reaching for material.

Give me the full video, say, 30 seconds before and 30 seconds after the shove.

That's like watching only the first five seconds of the Rodney King beating and saying; Ahh, well, if he did that, he deserves a good whooping.

I'm not activly trying to defend the guy here, I'm just trying to make the point that with the tiny amount of information available about the incident, making any judgements might be a tad premature.
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  • Posted On: Jun 21 2004 5:59am
Point taken. I skimmed your reply.

As well, that's an editted video, obviously. I don't have a longer one or I would have posted it.

But you can see clearly she is standing there, and then he shoves the camera, and then her face. We can't really see any justification.
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  • Posted On: Jun 21 2004 1:42pm
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  • Posted On: Jun 21 2004 2:39pm
Master Ahnk
Point taken. I skimmed your reply.

As well, that's an editted video, obviously. I don't have a longer one or I would have posted it.

But you can see clearly she is standing there, and then he shoves the camera, and then her face. We can't really see any justification.

But still we know nothing about the issue. I agree with Beff, a biased article and a too-short video clip is not enough to make a judgment. Maybe they talked earlier, maybe she was saying something, maybe this is his second time through the hallway, maybe she was told never to come back at some other point, maybe ... maybe ... maybe.
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  • Posted On: Jun 21 2004 2:41pm
It's not biased. The guy is an ebonic idiot, but he has no bias. If anything he is pro Jay Z as his magazine is pro rap, and Jay Z is a rapper.
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  • Posted On: Jun 21 2004 7:43pm
It's not biased.

Followed by...

If anything he is pro Jay Z as his magazine is pro rap, and Jay Z is a rapper.

Granted, the suggested bias goes the other way, but it still remains a true bias.
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  • Posted On: Jul 7 2004 9:32pm
How can a rap magazine be biased against a rapper, specialy when he says "we don't need this"?