TRF hasn't had any Sith for ages. Just a bunch of Dark Jedi posers.
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Technically, you still have Dark Jedi posers, since real Sith would be following the rule of two and murdering anyone who even remotely rivalled their own power.
Would that be Darth Bane era or Naga Sadow era? Because I am not sure what real Sith you are talking about?
Darth Bane officially founded the rule of two.
Naga Sadow technically followed it, even if it didn’t officially exist in his time, as he only assumed the title of Sith Lord once he had killed Marka Ragnos.
In virtually every instance of a Sith "faction" rising, there is in fighting. An apprentice only became the Master when he was capable of striking down his Master. Sith seem to lack the capacity to exist in groups of larger than two, because of the likelihood that their own power will be threatened. There could only be on Dark Lord of the Sith.
TSO shares a good deal more in common with Dark Jedi than Sith traditions.
Naga Sadow technically followed it, even if it didn’t officially exist in his time, as he only assumed the title of Sith Lord once he had killed Marka Ragnos.
In virtually every instance of a Sith "faction" rising, there is in fighting. An apprentice only became the Master when he was capable of striking down his Master. Sith seem to lack the capacity to exist in groups of larger than two, because of the likelihood that their own power will be threatened. There could only be on Dark Lord of the Sith.
TSO shares a good deal more in common with Dark Jedi than Sith traditions.
Real Sith never followed this rule. It was a system in vogue for a short time among a particular group of Force users, but has now been pretty much abandoned. It was instated by a hypocritical idealist (I don't remember the name - probably one of the folks Nihilus mentioned) who claimed to be doing to to keep order but who probably just wanted to hoard power and control. But it ultimatly proved an ineffectual strategy, being difficult to enforce on a galactic scale. So now we've got 'Sith' running all over the place.
Although as we all know, the Sith species died out thousands of years ago. So I suppose it's a moot point.
Ah, didn't see your post there. I'll admit my knowledge of this part of SW lore is slightly foggy, so I apologise if some of my assumptions seem uninformed.
But if we're getting into definitions, weren't the Sith (as in the dark force users/dark jedi-encountered-species hybrids) active before the rule of two were introduced? Which would give both schools of thought equal claim to the title of Sith, the only difference being that one hasn't been practiced for a thousand years or so? Or am I talking bullshit?
But if we're getting into definitions, weren't the Sith (as in the dark force users/dark jedi-encountered-species hybrids) active before the rule of two were introduced? Which would give both schools of thought equal claim to the title of Sith, the only difference being that one hasn't been practiced for a thousand years or so? Or am I talking bullshit?
If we followed the rule of two (rp-wise) I dont think the two would survive. regardless of who they were.
Mmm, well... Darth Bane didn't introduce the rule of two officially until long after the likes of Naga Sadow, Freedon Nadd and co were long dead - or haunting some god-forsaken tomb. Nevertheless, like I say, the Sith didn't ever succeed at functioning in groups. This was why the rule of two was created in the first place, not simply for hoarding power, but to ensure that they didn't wipe themselves out. It made official what Sadow etc had been doing centuries before.
As for the Sith species... from what I understand of them, there was a large number of them practicing use of the Force, though they all ultimately bowed before one Dark Lord of the Sith, none of them rivalling his power. They saw the Dark Lord, whoever it was at the time (Ragnos, Sadow, Nadd, Kun), as a god. They worshipped them and didn't at any point, as far as I know, attempt to challenge their rule. The last of the Sith species was wiped out in the time that Exar Kun was Dark Lord of the Sith.
One interesting thing to note is that the Sith species saw the likes of Naga Sadow et al as Dark Jedi. The only reason they were given the title Sith is because of their leadership over the Sith species. Modern Sith, i.e. Bane, simply carried on using the title.
As for the Sith species... from what I understand of them, there was a large number of them practicing use of the Force, though they all ultimately bowed before one Dark Lord of the Sith, none of them rivalling his power. They saw the Dark Lord, whoever it was at the time (Ragnos, Sadow, Nadd, Kun), as a god. They worshipped them and didn't at any point, as far as I know, attempt to challenge their rule. The last of the Sith species was wiped out in the time that Exar Kun was Dark Lord of the Sith.
One interesting thing to note is that the Sith species saw the likes of Naga Sadow et al as Dark Jedi. The only reason they were given the title Sith is because of their leadership over the Sith species. Modern Sith, i.e. Bane, simply carried on using the title.
They would find new ways to kill eachother the Sith motto.
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All questions regarding Sith lore and history may be directed at me.
As far as providing some explaination or reasoning as to why we have more than two Sith at TRF at a time, try thinking of it this way. At the Battle of Ruusan all the Sith but (supposedly) Bane were destroyed, as most of you involving yourself in a discussion as this probably know. It was then that he created the rule of two and, in effect, started a new Sith Order, with new rules and policies; a secret faction that would lie in wait, training in secret until the time was right to once again make their move for the galaxy, as Palpatine finally did thousands of years later. This Order created by Bane effectively became extinct with the death of Palpatine and his apprentice Vader, as no one was left to carry on the tradition. In truth... Bane's order failed.
The Sith of TRF are no less Sith than any Sith of the past because they have the freedom of choice and have made the choice to return to the old ways of the Sith during the heyday of the Sith Empire by creating for themselves yet another new Sith Order with their own policies and rules, and with good cause. Bane's order did fail, after all, in time, did it not?
Edit: So yes, Ming, what you are saying makes sense.
All questions regarding Sith lore and history may be directed at me.
As far as providing some explaination or reasoning as to why we have more than two Sith at TRF at a time, try thinking of it this way. At the Battle of Ruusan all the Sith but (supposedly) Bane were destroyed, as most of you involving yourself in a discussion as this probably know. It was then that he created the rule of two and, in effect, started a new Sith Order, with new rules and policies; a secret faction that would lie in wait, training in secret until the time was right to once again make their move for the galaxy, as Palpatine finally did thousands of years later. This Order created by Bane effectively became extinct with the death of Palpatine and his apprentice Vader, as no one was left to carry on the tradition. In truth... Bane's order failed.
The Sith of TRF are no less Sith than any Sith of the past because they have the freedom of choice and have made the choice to return to the old ways of the Sith during the heyday of the Sith Empire by creating for themselves yet another new Sith Order with their own policies and rules, and with good cause. Bane's order did fail, after all, in time, did it not?
Edit: So yes, Ming, what you are saying makes sense.