So hey, remember the Coalition?
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  • Posted On: Oct 31 2007 3:22am
I've been wondering just what state it's in, and kind of wanting to resolve it, but frankly the Coalition is such a mess and needs so much work to fix that whenever I even think of getting started I'm like "Oh hell, this is just too much work."

So just so that we all have some idea of what's going on with the Coalition, can we sort out a few details right here, right now, and decide what's canon or not for once and for all?

The mysteries that currently dangle are the following:

-Are the Cren still in the Coalition? Jan talked of them leaving, they took a great big hit when the Imperials came to town, and really they didn't seem all that interested. On a side note, is Jan still in the Coalition?

-Whatever happened to Gue and the East? I fell behind on Eastern Exodus, this I admit and know to be true. Nevertheless, the situation was never clarified - our fleet was badly damaged and the people were evacuated from Mon Calamari, the plague was cured, but we never retreated any further from the other worlds. So in other words, this is a Gue spot check. If he's still around and still meaninglessly angry at me (IT'S BEEN YEARS), then I guess I'll have to finish the retreat and we can say the East is evacuated. If not, then we can say the war is over and we just lost a bunch of ships and Mon Calamari.

-What the heck is going on with Onyx? It is turning into a very weird place. The Coalition (both in the form of federal forces, the Cooperative, and neighbouring Sinsang) are involved with evacuating military personnel and voluntary refugees. The Empire is there thumping down martial law. I get the impression there are some rebels and terrorists causing trouble, and I'm even planning on coming back with the Crusade just to make the mess worse. If a need for setting the record straight applies here, can we just say that in the long run those who had to got out and then the Empire took over? It's likely to stay chaotic for a while now (and forces are at work to disrupt Imperial control) but at the very least maybe the Coalition's presence and actions could be clarified.

There are many smaller things floating around that simply haven't been addressed, such as what the Coalition's going to do with the evidence gathered about the Empire's genocidal practices (That took me a year and a billion words to get, and I do nothing with it?). Also, Viryn's retired, so he needs to find a new job/gutter. What's the public perception? The international situation? Are Imperials still gleefully culling poorly-protected Coalition traders from the space lanes, or are we at peace? Does everyone look at us like dogshit now?

Thos are probably the biggest ones. If you think of anything else to add, go ahead to suggest it.
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  • Posted On: Oct 31 2007 3:43am
Sinsang: At present? A strong and booming economic power in the north. With the need to rebuild in the Coalition and Sinsang not being hurt in any of the wars, they're taking advantage of their position as a key industrial world in the Coalition.

Concluding First Quarter, internal politics will be stabilized and concluding Silk Road their trade routes will be finalized.

In Coalition of the Damned, the Sinsangese aren't actively aiding people from getting out of Onyxian space. They are however sending them to the world Lesalia, and providing them the ability to rebuild in return for their... gratitude.
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  • Posted On: Oct 31 2007 3:50am
I can only speaking to the condition of the Onyx Sector.

IC about two months have passed since the end of the two-week truce that allowed the exodus of Coalition equipment and such. Martial Law has been declared and the forces of the Imperial Thirteenth Fleet have been officially reclassified as the Onyx Sector Fleet. The sector is considerably lacking in infrastructure such as dry docks, repair yards, and military installations, most having been removed, sabotaged, or destroyed by or with the retreat of the Onyxian military.

The Onyxian Fleet has pulled about 90 percent of its assets to Sinsang where the Coalition maintains a fortress-like system on the edge of Imperial Space, a menacing presence we plan to deal with. The remaining ten percent have not reported for the exodus or been properly demobilized. Those have either sold their services to the highest bidder, turned pirate, or are working on proescuting private wars with the Empire. The same can be said of what ground forces remain behind.

Currently, there is a beast running around executing Imperial officials in governmental and administrative positions - things are tense in the sector. The Empire has embarked on massive building projects to both solidify its hold on the region and fortify it accordingly as anyone with a residue of strategic sense can see it is the most vulnerable bauble in the Empire's diadem.

No worlds have risen in direct insurrection, but that will change. Some worlds are apathetic to the change in masters, some disdain it, and even a few welcome it. But Onyx is a dangerous place to be....
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  • Posted On: Oct 31 2007 6:17am
The Onyxian Fleet has pulled about 90 percent of its assets to Sinsang where the Coalition maintains a fortress-like system on the edge of Imperial Space, a menacing presence we plan to deal with.


Heh, what? Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't we get to decide where our ships are, and what they're doing? And by we, I do mean the Coalition. Now, it's been a while since I've talked to Dolash, but he had a plan for those ships at one point, and it wasn't to fortify Sinsang and give you a reason to invade another Coalition world.

That's right, I'm still around; haven't gotten rid of me yet.

Dolash: I'm going to try really hard to pry myself away from WoW long enough to get on AIM sometime tomorrow, or the next day, or. . . Anyway, I'd like to talk to you about all of this in greater detail.

Oh, and be on the lookout: I might even write something sometime soon.
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  • Posted On: Oct 31 2007 7:40am
Your questions are complex. Here are the basic answers.

The Cren: I was going to make them leave. But I never RPed it. But at the same point I'm ridiculously possessive over them and reluctant to say "someone can do what they want with them". I had a big story I wanted to do with them, but I find it no longer as wonderful, appealing and innovative as I once did. Actually its kind of boring and been done before and right now I view it as somewhat lame, I only work on it on Word as a way to not let my writing skills (such as they are) die off entirely. If any RPer at TRF has an idea for them, PM me, we'll talk (or if you have MSN I'm on that a lot of the time) but don't expect to see me on AIM.

Jan: The character is still in the Coalition. Around christmas I intend to make a short RP about Jan retiring as Minister of Defence. So if Coalition RPers want to start mentioning that, go ahead. Reasons for retirement are basically because he's old and tired. If you have some great storyline idea for that (including theoretically his death) PM me, we'll chat, just don't expect to see me post ICly until after the 20th (got 4 essays to write in that time).

As for me the person:
I'm again in a non-active mode at TRF. I know this has been a semi-permanent mode for a few years now, so its time to face up to reality and make things official. As of now, I'm out of the Coalition, due to not being an active RPer. Dolash, kudos on all the hard work you put in, sorry I left you having to hold everything together so often, sorry I'm leaving you again. I hope you continue to have fun fighting the good fight and eventually win. Maybe I'll drop by sometime and lend a helping hand somewhere.
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  • Posted On: Oct 31 2007 3:34pm
NORTH: Singsang - I was under the impression that these guys were also leaving the Coalition but it is the GC's good fortune that they decided to stick around. Coalition leadership should kiss Singsang's arse for the time being as they have developed an unfettered industrial capacity that is definitely not under the enormous strain that the Central Worlds, I would think.


CENTER: I believe with supporting battle after battle, the people are tired. Their economy is overtaxed and crippled. Rebuilding,reconstruction efforts falling by the wayside as they work to keep their military machine running for defending citizens. With the loss of the Contegorian and Colonies, Onyx Commonwealth, possibly the Cren and the East, they are supporting a large influx of refugees with little space to put them.

In time, with the constant fighting finished, they can work through these problems.


EAST: The fleet is currently leaving the East and Mon Calamari is being evacuated. However, since Gue is not around to complete the rp, what eventually happens in the East is really up to Dolash. I would say Mon Cal is mostly evacuated but if the Dragons never come and if their advance stops... who's to say the GC cannot return to their Eastern homes once they feel they have the materials to defend? BDE'S lack of moving the story forward gives the momentum back to Dolash imho.


WEST: I would agree with Telan's assessment. I believe it was mentioned that some (if not most) of the Onyx refugees were being moved to Singsang territory and the Cooperative. I may be wrong as it's been a while since I've read the rp's. Of course, it is up to GC to decide whether or not the move is permanent. So, Smarts is right. They may not be reinforcing the Singsang border but transfered everyone interior or whatnot.


CREN: Given that there was an agreement not to attack TNO when Cren were handed back their planets by TNO and yet they still did with To Burn with Righteous Anger, I would have hoped this was covered in Kraken's Empire at War thread. Since it wasn't, I guess whether they are a part of GC or not is really up to Jan. I am curious, Jan, what your idea was for the Cren. PM it to me sometime. I wouldn't mind doing a slow rp with you regarding it (and not as an Imperial person). Just a thought.


There are different timelines involved as Smarts is rp'ing during the 2 week period. Telan is already two months beyond it. Space Between is taking place during and after To Burn with Righteous Anger (prior to Contegorian pull out).



Dolash: Personally, I think you need to coordinate whoever is still a member of GC to ensure they do not accidentally drag GC into a war by attacking something they shouldn't. GC relationship with former members may need to be addressed. The threads completed regarding Eastern Exodus and the Mon Cal Evac... you may not need to necessarily rp the action but provide a narrative of what happens to simply add closure would be nice.


Even if GC just sits around for a while doing nothing, it can be assumed that they are repairing damage to worlds, ships, relationships, new borders, etc...

But I would think that the people are tired. Tired of fighting, tired of drum beating and tired of losing. I would think that any leader suddenly calling for another war or whatnot would have the people pull him off his podium and claw him to death in revolutionary furor.
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  • Posted On: Nov 1 2007 11:26pm
Up to Dolash and I. Gue and I were merging BDE and I believe that he would not mind if I were to represent his interests. I have... had words with him that lead me to believe that he will not complain should I take a course of action that allows everyone to proceed. If Dolash wants something for the coalition, in regards to the east, I would likely accomodate.
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  • Posted On: Nov 1 2007 11:50pm
Ahh.. even my memory isn't all that.

Well there you go, Dolash.
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  • Posted On: Nov 4 2007 4:10am
Well thanks to Irtar I just had the shortest retirement from the GC ever. Jan's back, Cren are staying in the Coalition. Expect posts up by the end of November (I know that seems like a far away target, but I've got a few essays to write before I can worry about writing long posts again).
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  • Posted On: Nov 4 2007 9:46am
Now you see why the Gestalt Colonies had to leave the Galactic Coalition; acronym confusion.

In a perfect galaxy...