Empire: What once was lost OOC
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  • Posted On: Sep 19 2004 6:24pm
The returning wave was expected, and with its relatively smaller numbers was easily shot out of the sky by the fleet’s antimissile cannons.


Unfortunatly Drayson, the targets of that missile barrage, you Fire Class Light Cruisers, are not equipped with you anti-missile cannon system.

I was under the impression that the Phalanx is a short range defensive system, and thus could not be used in defense of vessels they are not on.

“Time to firing range?” Vladameer asked, watching as the fleet drew closer to the Belgardi formation.

“Coming into effective range now, General.”

“Thank you, Lieutenant. All batteries, begin synchronized firing.”

With timing facilitated by the fleet’s Multi-XMAP networks, the guns began to fire, pouring trillions of terajoules of energy into the enemy forces.


I assume you mean the batteries on the Zen because if you had your entire fleet firing, then they would firing on your own vessels, as you placed them in a column?
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  • Posted On: Sep 20 2004 2:17am
Unfortunatly Drayson, the targets of that missile barrage, you Fire Class Light Cruisers, are not equipped with you anti-missile cannon system.

I was under the impression that the Phalanx is a short range defensive system, and thus could not be used in defense of vessels they are not on.


They're not short range weapons by any means - they're stated as being able to intercept long range missile barrages at a higher rate of success than short range barrages, meaning they must have a fairily decent range.

That hardly means that the FCLFs are completely undamaged, simply not crippled.


I assume you mean the batteries on the Zen because if you had your entire fleet firing, then they would firing on your own vessels, as you placed them in a column?


Hardly. Your fleet is arranged in a line. Therefor, the Zen may be the only vessel able to fire at the ship(s) dead ahead of it, but the other ships have clear sights on the other ships in your line (depending upon relative spacing, in both fleets).

There's probably a mathmatical formula that would tell you exactly which ships could fire on which, but essentially the second "layer" in my column is able to fire on your outermost flanking ships, I believe... unless your ships are close enough to be scraping the pain off each other's hulls.
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  • Posted On: Sep 20 2004 3:04am
Ok that clears stuff up.

I'll get on a response soon.
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  • Posted On: Sep 25 2004 4:41pm
I'm going to call you on those Damages in your latest post Drayson.

Damages:
Immolator Class Battlecruiser- Fireburst -- Crippled/Out of Action
Immolator Class Battlecruiser- Infinity -- Moderate Damage
Immolator Class Battlecruiser- Paradigm -- Moderate Damage
Rapiers - Moderate to Heavy Damage
Punishers - Light Damage to 3, Moderate to Heavy Damage to 4


Fuck no. You perhaps can pull this off against Jan, because he has no clue, but no.
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  • Posted On: Sep 25 2004 4:43pm
Also note, to any staff observer, that is in a single post, no previous damage having been done to any of those craft...
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  • Posted On: Sep 25 2004 8:02pm
I haven't had a lot of time to look at Drayson's post- as I am just sitting down to review all the threads that need rsponses too, but those damages do seem a bit heavy- I dont know- I have just glanced at everything.

A more in depth opinion pending my reading of the thread, and Drayson's decision on whether or not to allow me a response to the first outdatnding post in that thread..
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  • Posted On: Sep 26 2004 2:40am
You're right. They are hefty damages. And here's why:

If you break it all the way down, you technically are looking at five posts worth of damage to your fleet. The continious beam turbolasers on the Archangel requires two posts down for every post up, because of the damage it inflicts. So you can look at that as three posts worth of "standard weapons" damage, type of thing.

Combine that with the missile barrage, which once again is a two-post action due to the damage it's capable of causing. So, technically, that again is two posts worth of "standard weapons" damage.

Plus, of course, the damages sustained through a normal post.

That equals, if you look at the breakdown of posts to charge and fire weapons, five posts. With that in mind, I think the damages are more than fair.

Never mind that you didn't respond (which I'm coming to). I consider myself to be a fair person, and under most circumstances would waive the 72 hour rule to accomodate others. If they ask me beforehand. That you had time to bring up the OOC issues related to the RP was, to me, a statement that you were bound by the 72 hour rule. Coming later and saying "Oh, well, I had this and this" is all well and good, but it would have been better to do so beforehand (which I'm sure you'd accept).

With that in mind, I will give you the benefit of the doubt in that, in future, I will allow you some more leeway in giving you time to get your posts up, recognizing that RL takes precedence over RP. Therefor, within reason, from this point forward, may we consider the 72 hour waived for the duration of the thread?
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  • Posted On: Sep 26 2004 3:26am
Drayson, shut up. That was total crap. Don't try and play me.
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  • Posted On: Sep 27 2004 4:58am
All i can say is 'technically my nutsack'. You've taken a 2000m ship out of action in a single post. If you follow the rules and be realistic with the damages, you'd have spread it out amongst the fleet, assuming your damages are realistic as well. So technically nay, really, stop being a tool.

I consider myself to be a fair person, and under most circumstances would waive the 72 hour rule to accomodate others. If they ask me beforehand.


BULLSHIT! I'm calling you on that!

Well, i guess its not bullshit, but what you are describing is called curteousy, something you and i both know you very rarely extend to anyone your fleet RP against. And the only reason that is done is because of the public lynching you would receive if you pressed the 72hr rule against someone who requested it to not be. So its more through fear than anything else that you do this.

With that in mind, I will give you the benefit of the doubt in that, in future, I will allow you some more leeway in giving you time to get your posts up, recognizing that RL takes precedence over RP. Therefor, within reason, from this point forward, may we consider the 72 hour waived for the duration of the thread?



Your generousity is duly noted, and disregarded, since you've just taken out the only things that could realistically stop you from winning the battle. Thats not nice, thats fucking sly.




Still, i have no right to argue for Brutus, but i've just had it at the crap you get away with here Drayson. At times its just disgusting.
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  • Posted On: Sep 27 2004 7:56pm
*looks at above agruments*

I, Brutus Nogoth, hereby hand over my right to argument to Lupercus, effective immediatly.

Signed,

[FONT=Franklin Gothic Medium]Brutus Nogoth[/FONT]


In all seriousness, I do concur with Lup on the above points. You may be within the rules, and I understand that fully. However your action is not really very "accomodating"- its more of manipulation to ensure your victory.

Besides, as Kas stated in a different OOC- just because you made another post doesnt mean that my ships sat their uncoordinated and had no contrated effort- as portrayed in your post. Realistically that wouldn't happen, just as I am sure you would complain if I said you ships fought back futily.

I think the nature of the 72 hour rule was to prevent people who would purposly ignore threads in hopes that they would dissapear. I have no inetnion of letting this thread die, but I simply could not put up a quality response to your thread. I have seen posts int he past where people copy and pasted manifests and/or damages to prevent the occurance of what happened to me. I didn't want to do that- as the point of this game is to write- not to crunch numbers.

I do apologize for not being able to put a post up alerting people to my inablity to post, for two reasons:

1) I didn't have a lot of time to even look at the board, and thus I didn't even think about such action
2) I figured my low level of posting would speak for itself.

As well as the fact that the Empire wasn;t using the 72 hour rule in other threads- I assumed I was ok. Of course you know what they say about assuming.