Almania thread-resolutions
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  • Posted On: Dec 30 2005 5:48am
My only issue is the fact that Vonta has editted a number of posts months after posting them, and after others have posted numerous times based off those posts.
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  • Posted On: Dec 30 2005 6:19am
my only issue is that vonta exists













disclaimer: the above constitutes a a JOKE and is not meant to be treated seriously by anyone
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  • Posted On: Dec 30 2005 7:35pm
K. I've been up since 12:00 am , and I am still at work (its now 7:30 PM) I now know I won't get away until probably 10:30 at the latest.

So it'll have to wait unitl I can find the time to sit down and go through everythign.

in the meantime Vonta as I said before just break it down for me exactly what ths issues are on your side, (so I don't have to go trawling through everything unless its necessary).
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  • Posted On: Jan 1 2006 1:26am
Alright, for starters here is some info to assist seth for the first problem.

1st post-

Vonta Horn
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02-18-2005, 07:12 PM
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Last edited by Vonta Horn : 03-11-2005 at 05:22 PM.

The edit was to edit out ships Lup had a problem with as shown in the following OOC thread.

http://therebelfaction.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5644&highlight=Almania

Next poster is drayson 06-02-2005 a full three months after the fact.

Posting goes through 6/27 until I post again on 7/5 with no edits.

My next post on 8/9 at 9:28 PM is edited on 8/9 at 9:34 PM, 6 minutes later.

The next post is from Drayson on 8/16 seven days after my edits that had a total difference in time of 6 minutes.

My last posts have no edits.

Issue number two should be the reasons behind closing the thread in the first place at this point. Why have and ending to the thread is the first place? That question seems to be at the heart of the matter.


Take your time to rest seth. Better to have you look at this when you have time to actually address the issues then dead of exhuastion.
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  • Posted On: Jan 1 2006 4:33am
you just asked why a thread should have an ending?

can i have some of your crack?
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  • Posted On: Jan 1 2006 10:10pm
Enough of the insults please. There are rules against this level of harrasment here.

And I'll simply clarify. Why was there a push to make an ending in the last several months time and what is the history of the push to end the thread?

This should be officially clarified and sorted out before proceeding.
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  • Posted On: Jan 3 2006 12:57pm
I think thats a no Izzy...

Greedy Bastard!
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  • Posted On: Jan 3 2006 1:16pm
Enough of the insults please. There are rules against this level of harrasment here.


Really ?
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  • Posted On: Jan 3 2006 4:31pm
Okay.

From what I read in here, having not read the thread, the basis of the arguement is that Vonta had no options to escape and take his people with him and can't hide because the planet was interned and then base delta zeroed.

Uh, what?

First of all, discounting the fact that the previous version of the rules very clearly stated that you could not destroy planets, and even though it's been removed, it's still pretty fucking lame of you, let's consider for a second the time that would be required. Lup said...

You've been blockaded, landed upon, 'tested' and returned to the populace (you, the planet/populace).

...

The planet has been dangerously infected, deemed a quarentine risk, and therefore has Base Delta Zero initiated. This means the planet is being completely destroyed by orbital bombardment. In addition, all people have been moved to internment camps (where they were tested and forced to remain there) for the ease of their destruction. Following that Elite Stormtrooper MedCorps troops are finishing the rest off on the ground. The planets are taken because after that, the only thing in system is my craft.

Not a single almanian lifeform (including on its moons) remains.


This series of (completely rediculously over the top expensive, by the by) actions would take months, maybe years. In case you guys forgot, the old rules clearly stated that each post should more then likely cover a minute or two. I don't see a few thousand posts there, so I'm just going to assume that you rushed things. Now, if I remember correctly, when Isstal posted his "epilogue", it was deemed at the time a big pile of fucking shit. It was too much, too fast, too powerful. Isstal then said "What?", refused to change it, and eventually the staff made the ruling that Vonta was, of course, free to roleplay his own personal way out of the situation for characters of his that were on scene.

And now, TNO disputes that roleplay.

You know what? TOO FUCKING BAD. All the rediculously over the top and godmoded actions in the thread were your destruction of the planet in a single post! Since you refused to change it, the staff gave Vonta freedom to get away. I don't know what he did, since I haven't read the thread, but whatever he did, I don't really give a shit. Saying "oh btw ur planet is fuxored" is not the quality of roleplaying that TRF will allow. Vonta was given reign to get off the planet with his characters which is his right. Did he overstep his bounds? Maybe. I don't care. In my opinion he can't really do anything more stupid and illegal then what TNO has already tried to pull. So I stand behind Vonta, one hundred percent. I don't care if he's blowing up Star Destroyers with nothing but an evil glare, one hundred fucking percent.

As to the offical outcome of the thread, I say, toss up. Almania and it's moons are now vacant and free for any group to take over. Partially destroyed and all, but what the hey. The Imperials hold no claim since red tape forced them to evacuate the system half destroyed, but they can feel free to come back. If Vonta or friends want to try and take over what's left of his trashed planets, feel free.

That's my thoughts and opinion o what we should do, I'll leave it to the other staff members to chime in but personally, I think that's where we should go.
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  • Posted On: Jan 3 2006 6:44pm
LOL...

Ahnk really cuts to the heart of a matter..