A final stab at peace...
  • Posted On: Aug 20 2002 2:38am
<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--> The holocron turns on, showing Aron Antilles, in front of the Vinda Corporation insignia.<!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->

"Ladies, Gentlemen, TNO, and TJE. It is at this time I will try once more what I tried mere weeks ago. This war is a thorn in everyone's side; a thorn that doesn't need to be there. On the one hand, TNO is trying to initiate negotiations by making demands and declaring them non-negotiable, and on the other, TJE demands that a man accused of the murder of a presently living person be turned over. I find neither side of this conflict in the right, which is why I, now employed by Vinda Corporation, make one final invitation: Come to Brentaal for a peace conference hosted by the Vinda Corporation, mediated by myself and other diplomats who wish to help.

There is not much to explain about this. I don't care if the leaders come themselves, or if they send representative diplomats. But all parties involved should be represented, including IDTech and the other underlings.

If there is to be peace, there must first be desire for peace. And as long as the attitude is "I will only attend a peace conference biased against my enemy," then you are lying to my face when you say you want peace. This is to be a neutral conference in which all those involved will leave our planet content with what has gone on.

I await answers from both leaders. Let us negotiate, and bring an end to this destructive conflict.

We would also appreciate any diplomats from fully neutral factions, such as the Hapes Consortium in aiding us. These negotiations will require work from more than VC.

I also wish to repeat that other militarily actively aligned factions are encouraged to attend as well.

Let's talk peace...

"My door is always open."
Aron Antilles, VC Diplomat
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  • Posted On: Aug 20 2002 3:07am
ha. We'll only attend a peace conference which is biased against such acts of terror as the construction of the Death Star. Mr. Antilles, by refusing this, is essentially declaring that he is impartial when it comes to the eradication of a world. Diplomats should be defined by their moral fortitude, not by their ability to stand by with a wry grin, a full pocketbook and a lack of idealism and allow others to be eradicated.

Neutral? I spit in the face of neutral. Those people who would declare themselves neutral should themselves become a victim of the death star, and cry out as the "neutral" parties of the galaxy refuse to help them.
  • Posted On: Aug 20 2002 5:47am
As the woreds of Mr. Drakiss faided out with the Imperial Insignia, the Insignia of the Divine Order replaced it, along with the ever persistant face of the Queen.

"I come before you now as the Queen of the Divine Order, the Divine Colonies, Dreena, and Orion. Mr. Antilles has come before you all as a representative of the neutral corporation, Vinda Corp, but before that, he worked freelance, in an attempt to bring the Galaxy back in order. I ask you then, Mister Antilles, why is this conference so important to you? You seen to be very persistant with your empty demands for peace.

You must realize that the Jutraalian Empire is not interested in peace. They are interested in self gain, and the destruction of all that oppose them. It is not in the best interest of Vinda Corp to hold a meeting of peace, when the Jutraalian Empiree refuses the humble, and well thought surrender document. The Jutraalian had a chance to salvage some of there anarchist empire, rather than have it crushed unter the iron fist of the New Order, and that chance is over.

I speak as the Sovereign Diplomat of Dreena, and the Divine Order. The Divine Order will not subject itself to a meeting with the Jutraalian Empire, unless The New Order wishes it so. As you may know, The Divine Order fully supports The New Order in there noble, and honorable fight to rid the Galaxy of this plague that calls itself the Jutraalian Empire. It is clear to me that peace is not possible unless both sides work at it.

As Queen of the Divine, I would personallyt love to see the conflict end, for the best interest of my people, and the Galaxy is at stake, but as long as the Jutraalian Empire continues to be stubborn, and uncooperative, then the Divine Order will do the same.

At the current time, I reject your pledge to call this meeting, with my must humble regret."
  • Posted On: Aug 20 2002 5:23pm
Admiral, I understand that you think of neutrality as weak. But that is because you confuse neutrality with indifference. Any protozoan can figure out that if I were indifferent and apathetic, as you portray me, then I wouldn't have taken time out of my busy day to make this broadcast. When I said I find neither side in the right, surely you deduced that what was implied was "Both sides are in the wrong." I understand that TJE has commited some heinous acts. But TNO wears no halo, Admiral. In our meetings, I find my neutral comments attacked by your vibro-axe. I find you no more and no less beligerent than Emperor Fearsons. It is clear to me that you want this war to go on. Now that I think of it you have never stated otherwise; you have only stated that TJE turn over exactly what you want them turn over, destroy exactly what you want them to destroy, and demand that if they answer at all, they may only say "Yes, dear." That is a contradiction to the term "initiation of negotiations."

Queen Malyndar, your kindness during my "new kid on the block" stage will never stop being appreciated. On the other hand, your sidetaking in this conflict when you have nothing to offer but words, now that your military aide from Hapes has disappeared, will never stop being criticized. You call the document demanding the non-negotiable surrender of TJE to TNO a "humble...document." Madam, the term "ultimatum" could be applied to that document if the two parties weren't already in a state of war. I'm convinced that if TJE were to surrender, TNO would not accept it. It is evident that TNO simply wants to prolong this war. However, TJE was not in the right in building a death star and, if I may quote Viryn Quell, "blacklisting [cutting off tibanna gas supply to] everyone who hasn't taken...Fearsons out for an icecream cone." As I said, neither side is in the right, nor will they be until both subject themselves to unbiased negotiations.

If neutrality is looked upon as weak by the two of you, I am not surprised at Admiral Drackiss, as we have spoken before. However, your Highness, I am somewhat disappointed. You don't see the galaxy at war, you see TDO joining the winning side of a destructive conflict and getting something out of it. Vinda Corporation gets nothing out of this, other than the satisfaction of ending a war. But to do that, all parties involved must desire peace. A final message to the queen: If one regrets something, that means that they wish they hadn't done it. You have no such wish. You don't regret that for the sake of an alliance with a faction, soon to have a monopoly on fleets, you'll sneer at peace.

In closing, I implore both groups to allow representation at this peace conference. Anyone can destroy peace, but to make peace, that is true power, a power that everyone has. It's a question of whether or not one wishes to use that power, and I have been shown here today, that that power will remain dormant in TNO and her allies. However, a peacemaker can't give up because of a little bit of resistance to peace. If they did, there would never be any peace. Please, accept our invitation. We bear no ill will, our criticism is neutral and constructive. I beg TNO to reconsider.
  • Posted On: Aug 20 2002 6:30pm
The Queen, dressed in a formal blue, tight fitting dress stepped up to the podium in her new conference room within the Palace of Serenity, and began to speak after carefully reviewing Aron Antilles' words.

"There is a Peace that is only to be found on the other side of war. War, though cold, relentless, and deadly is sometimes necessary. If I recall correctly, it was Emperor Fearsons that declared War on the New Order. It was the Military Subordinant of The Jutraalian Empire, then known as The Rogue Empire, that attacked Fondor without reason, or question.

I have declared my support to the New Order, not for a personal gain, for they have offered me more than you can possibly imagine. I have denied there offer of a protectionary fleet, because Dreena, and the Divine Order do not need it. I will not cringe behind my people, friends, or allies. If the Jutraalian Empire doesn't like what I have to say, then they can take it up with me; something they have yet to do.

The Jutraalian Empire built a weapon of mass destruction under the cloak of a diplomatic station, known as Jileaak Station, and invited several factions to take part in the efforts, only to enslave them at a later date. If I might add, 0n 08/07/02, Emperor Fearsons ordered the arrests of all GDI diplomatic troops aboard Jilaeek Station. Do you consider that Honorable, Mr. Antilles? Do you consider a Militaristic Terroristic Barbarian, known as Emperor Fearsons, honorable? He is nothing more than a tyrant.... A Plague upon this Galaxy, and Galactic Peace.

It was Emperor Fearsons that brought this conflict on, and now it is him that pays for his actions. You speak of the generous offers of the New Order 'Ultimatiums', well, let me tell you this, The New Order is being more than generous in allowing the Jutraalians to keep so much of what they worked so hard to build.

The Hapes Consortium withdrew there fleet of there own free will, and it has been gone for quite some time. As I stated before, I do not need allied fleets, or armies to defend me. I am a Grown Hapan Woman. I can take care of myself, and my people without your input, or your petty comments. Nor do I need the comments of a man that begs for peace, rather than working for it. Your constant begging has begun to annoy me.

You accuse The Divine Order of being a Militaristic Aggressor in this war, yet we have yet to offer Militaristic Support to either side of this conflict. Are these the views of Vinda Corporation, as well? Does Vinda Corporation label me as a Militant Aggressor?

You speak of being convinced that if the Jutraalian Empire were to surrender, then the New Order would still crush them.You also speak of Unbiast negotiations. How can a conference be considered unbiast if a man like you hosts it? Was it not you that said 'It is evident that TNO simply wants to prolong this war.' You seem to lean in the favor of the Jutraalian Empire with your comments, and accusations against myself, and the New Order. Why should they trust you? I would ask that you choose your wording more carefully next time you run off a random speach, and beg for the New Order's co-operation.

I am sure that the New Order bows to no one's wishes but there own. Begging will get you nowhere, so I ask that you refrain from taking up valuable airtime with your constang nagging, and begging. It grows old after a while.

You are right about one thing. It was a mistake for the Jutraalian Empire to construct a Death Star. It was also worse that they took it upon themselves to economically sanction select factions that do not hold the Jutraalians in their favor. I am disgusted that you would dare declare that The New Order is not in the right by seeking justice against the trecherous Jutraalian Empire, and there hostility. That is the precise reason that The Divine Order supports The New Order so strongly. Not for the benifits of there mighty fleets, or there powerful armies. Not for the benifits of this war. I seek nothing from them, and would never request anything of them. As I stated before, I have been offered plenty, and rejected it all.

The next time you dare to make a fool of yourself, and accuse the Divine Order of being a militaristic faction with political interests in joining the winning side for a personal gain. Do not presume to know what out Government thinks of this conflict, or what I do with my diplomatic efforts. You know nothing of what The Divine Order stands for, so I will once again ask you to choose your wording more carefully in the future.

Furthermore, I would advise Vinda Corp to review these speaches in the future, if, in fact these are not the views of Vinda Corp itself. If they are, then I must say I am disgusted with Vinda Corporation, and it's current Propaganda Attack against the Divine Order.

And, in closing, I say this, Mr. Antilles. Sometimes, when you win, you loose, and sometimes when you loose you win. There is never an official winning side."
  • Posted On: Aug 20 2002 6:38pm
Obviously, given that the SW galaxy uses a completely different calendar, and time is warped in translation from our's to TRF's, the date 08/07/02 is incorrect in IC terms. It's fine to use them under the assumption that your character is really saying something different in it's place, but I wouldn't make a habit of it. Just a thought.
  • Posted On: Aug 20 2002 6:39pm
Of course that's what I ment. I don't believe there is an official dating system, and I couldn't think of anything else to put there. :)
  • Posted On: Aug 20 2002 7:28pm
I stated my beefs with both TJE and TNO. For the third, and hopefully final time, I find neither side in the right. If your closing statement is true, that "there is no winning side" in any situation, then what is the purpose of war? What is the purpose of TNO and TJE's conflict?

And with all respect due, Your Highness, you are not militarily active because you don't have the resources necessary to be so...yet. I don't hesitate to say that your faction is a large political voice in the galaxy: it has you FOR a voice. However, militarily you are vulnerable, and so I worry for you and your people. I worry that your talk will lead to something more. Your right to support TNO is not challenged. But, while in your service, it was my hope that Dreena could be the site of the peace conference. But you took a side. You were drawn into this war.

And also, there is no way to work for peace, other than to ask for it. If I were to DEMAND that TNO calm down with their harsh demands, or if I were to DEMAND that TJE give all their assets to TNO, I'd be hated by both sides. But that wouldn't change that those two sides hated each other. So, I prefer to ask that TNO and TJE meet with me, or any diplomat of MUTUAL CHOICE. Surely your Highness does not wish for TJE's voice to be silenced. I understand that TJE has done some horrible things, TERRIBLE things. But, as I previously stated, TNO wears no halo. In fact, NO ONE does. You and I agree that the construction of the death star was a mistake, a mistake that lead to the prolonging of this war. Ok, scrap the death star and we can move on to asset surrender.

I respect that TNO has the upper hand in this war. I understand that it is their martial right to grind TJE into the ground and put out their light in the universe. I acknowledge that right, but I don't think that that is the way negotiations should be conducted. I have been called stubborn, when your allies, your Highness, make nonnegotiable demands. If they want to make a treaty draft, and ask if TJE has any ammendment to make to it, then THAT is an attempt at peace. Obviously, seeing as TNO is on top as of this second, TJE can make no huge ammends to it. However, surely it is better to let TJE speak than to make Admiral Drackiss appear a beligerent man who's trying to shove his demands down TJE's throat. I am not calling him that; I am saying that people who don't know him at all will perceive him that way. I had the pleasure of meeting him before TNO's victory was almost inevitable. He welcomed me heartily, until I mentioned negotiating with Fearsons. But let that be a credit to Admiral Drackiss; he is kind to strangers; he uses an "innocent until proven guilty" system of judgement. And, while I don't believe I proved myself guilty of anything other than trying to help, I don't see things through his eyes, and understand that only he does.

Now, to TJE. TJE hasn't even responded to this invitation. I suppose your response is better than no response. So, Admiral, your Highness, I give you that credit.

I also extend my condolences to all lives lost during this conflict, which should never have taken place. I respect that it was a military subordinate of TJE who started this conflict, and that gives TJE responsibilty for reparations, etcetera. I also was not a fan of TJE's tibanna gas monopoly, a terrible regime in which your import of tibanna gas depended on your standing with Emperor Fearsons. I am happy that now that problem is on the road to recovery.

Now, rather than saying "It was nobody's fault," I'd rather say "I find everybody with some fault." The right to deny that fault shall not be challenged. But, as I said, the only way to work for peace is to ask for it. If you demand, you make people mad. The devil take it, I've <!--EZCODE BOLD START--> asked<!--EZCODE BOLD END--> and I've made people mad, so it's really a no-win situation for peace.

Vinda Corp simply wants this conflict to end. We do NOT label you as a military agressor because it is impossible for you to be so. We welcome you to our peace conference as well, your Highness, accompanied or unaccompanied by TNO. As I said, if you regret something, it means you think you shouldn't have done it. And I know you have no regret over abstaining from the peace conference. You have every right to follow your allies actions; that is what allies do. However, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--> I<!--EZCODE BOLD END--> have been charged as a man who stood by laughing as myriad people have died in this bloody war. The thought of it is sickening, that the honorable Admiral de TNO would suggest something so horrible. That I cheer as countless men and women are incinerated. I'm shocked. However, Emperor Fearsons, also is not my best friend. He and I were never on wonderful terms. The last I met with him, I mediated negotiations with him and MonCal. But that was a while back.

A final request: Please, come and negotiate with TJE on Brentaal. Put away your pride, for pride is a disgusting thing. If I were worried about pride, would I be begging? Do you think I expect positive feedback from a galactic audience watching me on my knees begging you people for peace? VC wishes for both sides to speak, seeing as the right to speak is supported by all factions in this galaxy of free men and women. If it will please TNO, they may speak first. Also, TDO, IDT, TJE, and all the others who wish to may speak.

And to TJE: would you rather be crushed than to at least acknowledge this attempt to bring peace to the galaxy? It would appear so. At least do as the Admiral did and say, "We'd be happy to negotiate. We just don't want you to mediate."

To both parties: I await your final answer. After I have received them the following will occur:

Scenario 1: Both parties say, "Ok, I'm willing to sweat for the sake of peace."
Action 1: I will give you specifics as to where we can meet.

Scenario 2: Both parties say, "War is fun. Let's keep it goin."
Action 2: I say, "Ok, I tried, I was turned down. I apologize for taking up everyone's time. I wish everyone well and hope someone else will be more successful than I."

Scenario 3: One party says one thing and the other says another.
Action 3: I say, "Without one, the other cannot negotiate. I apologize for taking up everyone's time. I wish everyone well and hope someone else will be more successful than I."

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  • Posted On: Aug 20 2002 11:29pm
I have not bothered, and will not be bothered, to read the above ramblings. Simply because of the fact that I am quite certain its all the same bull @#%$ that has been stated numerous times before in the past several weeks.

What I did see, however, in skimming through the initial post of Mr. Aron Antilles, is a claim that TNO tried to initiate negotiations with TJE.

Know this, now. The Empire has not, and has never attempted, to initiate negotians with the Jutraalian Empire.

We have posted terms of surrender to the forces of the Empire. These terms are final.

Negotiations will not take place.

The terms have been declined, and therefore, the Jutraalian Empire, and all its misguided destructive power, will be completely and utterly... eliminated.


Further attempts or pleads of peace between the glorious Empire and said Rogue Imperials, now dubbing themselves "Jutraalians", will not be acknowledged, AT ALL.


Cease your futile attempts before further humiliating yourself.


Long live the Empire.
  • Posted On: Aug 20 2002 11:40pm
"If that is your destiny,"

I bid everyone farewell......for now.