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Oct 28 2004 8:25pm
Students Have Parties Switched by Bogus Petitions By Dennis B. Roddy Pittsburgh Post-Gazette Friday 22 October 2004 Registration changed to Republican without consentScores of college students in Pennsylvania and Oregon have had their voting registrations switched by teams of canvassers circulating bogus petitions and, in some cases, partially concealed voter registration forms students were requested to sign. The canvassers have visited campuses asking students to sign petitions advocating lower auto insurance rates, medical marijuana or stricter rape laws, according to elections officials. After signing their names, the students were pressured into registering with the Republican Party by being told that their signatures otherwise would be invalid, or they were asked to fill out the signature and address portions of blank voter registration forms as proof of citizenship. In multiple instances, students already registered to vote have had their registrations changed without their consent, elections officials said yesterday.Petition canvassers in Pennsylvania apparently did not identify themselves, although one told a University of Pittsburgh student that he was being paid by the Republican Party. In another instance, the head of the Oregon Students Association said a canvasser at Portland State University told him he was with Project America Votes, a Republican-backed registration effort. Elections officials yesterday said the switch in party registration would not affect the students' eligibility to cast ballots for the candidates of their choice on Nov. 2, although it could determine the party primaries in which they could take part in the future. Several said they were mystified why the canvassers would bother to change registrations, although one told a student in Oregon that he was receiving $12 for each new Republican registration. Students at Indiana University of Pennsylvania and a branch campus of Montgomery County Community College told officials they were tricked into filling out blank voter registration forms, listing their names and addresses when they signed a petition advocating the legalization of marijuana for medicinal purposes. "I'm pretty sure that they weren't students," said Erik Strobl, an IUP student who said he signed the petition. Strobl said the canvasser then asked him to put his signature and address on a voter registration card. Although Strobl had already registered to vote as a Democat, he did so when he was told his signature was needed to verify his status as a voter. Several days later, Strobl received a mailed notification that his party registration had been switched to Republican. IUP appeared to have been hardest hit by the scam. County voter registration director Donna Hoover said as many as 400 registration suspect forms have arrived in her office. Most of them, she said, changed the registered party of students who had signed up to vote just days earlier during a registration drive by two other groups, America Coming Together and VIP. "Most of the students had registered Democrat the day before," Hoover said. "I've talked to the sheriff." Markings on many of the forms appeared to be in the same handwriting, she said. "I kind of thought there was something odd. I don't even know which party would have done it," Hoover said. "These people circled the different spots [on the form] for the people to fill in." In Allegheny County, elections director Mark Wolosik referred another case, involving a Squirrel Hill college student, to county detectives. Ruairi McDonnell said his registration was switched from Independent to Republican by someone who circulated a petition to lower auto insurance rates for young drivers on the campus of the University of Pittsburgh last month. McDonnell said the man instructed him to fill out portions of a voter registration form, although McDonnell told the man he already had registered to vote. "He then told me I would have to register as a Republican because 'that's how we get our funding.' I said I would not. He kept the form which contained only my name and address and certainly did not indicate I was a Republican," McDonnell said in a letter to the Allegheny County Department of Elections. Several days later, McDonnell received notice from the elections department that he had changed his registration from Independent to Republican. In Montgomery, an identical scam took place in September, when students at the Blue Bell campus of Montgomery County Community College were handed the marijuana petition. "They're just trying to get numbers," said Joseph Passarella, director of elections for Montgomery, who said he has so far received a handful of complaints from students who said their party affiliation had been changed without their consent. Susan Adams, a spokeswoman for the college, said the petition canvassers did not have permission from the school to work on the campus. Project America Votes was a name used by canvassers for Sproul & Associates, an Arizona-based consultant under contract with the Republican National Committee. Nathan Sproul, the firm's owner, yesterday denied that his workers had used petitions to bait students into party switches. "This is clearly the Democratic plan to make these baseless allegations," said Heather Layman, a spokeswoman for the Republican National Committee. Layman said she was speaking on behalf of Sproul. She said no Sproul workers were involved in such tactics in Oregon or Pennsylvania. Sproul's role in ostensibly nonpartisan voter registration drives have triggered official investigations in several states, with canvassers alleging they had been told to refuse to register Democrats or to discard Democratic registration forms, leaving voters who thought they had registered off the rolls. I will lay money down there is going to be another recount.
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If the democrats take power this November they will probably continue the same policies as Bush. We know this because Clinton did basically the same thing when he was in office. To think otherwise is to ignore history and the democrat's records. The "Anybody but Bush" (ABB) movement is founded on a basically irrational hatred of Bush that completely ignores the record of the democrats the last time they were in power. The ABB movement practices a double standard: when republicans do something it’s wrong but when democrats do the same thing it’s okay (or didn’t happen at all). In party politics it is always the other party’s fault, never the system’s fault. If a democrat were in office and implemented the same policies Bush has most of the ABBers would support him. We know this because Clinton implemented many of the same policies ABBers criticize Bush for yet they didn’t develop the same kind of hatred towards Clinton they have towards Bush. Most outright supported Clinton and the minority who didn’t support him did not develop the kind of irrational hatred towards Clinton they have towards Bush. There are major continuities between Clinton’s policies and Bush’s policies, even if their rhetoric is different. These continuities also illustrate the flaw in thinking that putting a democrat back in office will be a big change for the better. The last time a democrat was in office he did pretty much the same thing the current occupant is doing, so given that the current nominee doesn't disavow Clinton there’s no reason to think the next democrat in the White House will be much different. It then goes down to break down Clinton and Bush's records and compare the two.
Then again, Bush says Kerry is the most Liberal senator ever to try and asuage swing voters... and an indepent report does the opposite for presumedly the same reason.
Curious.
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Oct 28 2004 8:27pm
Republicans trying to rig the election? You say that likes it's news...
Posted On:
Oct 28 2004 8:32pm
If you're talking about the first one, it's hardly shocking, but it's pretty blatant and unimaginative... and it doesn't affect their status to vote in the Presidential election, only DNC primaries. The second one is actually a really great read for johnny come latelies to look at Clinton's record. He really wasn't that liberal at all... Clinton was really a Republican... fiscally responsible, homophobic, and more over, he was from freaking Alabama FFS. He was Republican everywhere but his pants.
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Oct 28 2004 10:20pm
That's hardly news, either... but at least he made it sound good (and understandable).
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Oct 28 2004 11:41pm
All I heard is: "Blah blah blah republicans are evil and want to cheat at everything blah blah blah."
Posted On:
Oct 29 2004 12:13am
You got the gist of it, then.
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Oct 29 2004 1:00am
I will lay money down there is going to be another recount. I will lay down a lot more money that there is going to be alot more than another frelling recount.
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Oct 29 2004 2:28am
Vodo Baas
All I heard is: "Blah blah blah republicans are evil and want to cheat at everything blah blah blah."
Well, yeah. Electoral fruad kinda does that.
But nice to know you glossed over the three or four thousand words on how Bill Clinton was evil. But HEY! Putting in the effort to read things and form an opinion is overrated when you can just ask Carl Rove what you think about it and get him to spend money debasing it!