Okay, look man, no one on here thinks I'm anything but a drunk piece of shit, so you can just lay off now. It's okay. No matter what, you win. I'm sorry that I offended you with what I thought was one innocuous paragraph on the context of symbolism in society, enough to make you call me Maddox and an internet tough guy. I don't know, I didn't think I was running my mouth but apparently it just runs on its own steam now.
Honestly if I could go back and not post that shit and avoid this whole thing where you prove what a dick I am -- as if that needed to be proven -- I would. I understand what I did was wrong and that I am the biggest asshole on TRF, and that all of my sarcastic derision of others is just a reflection of my own low self-esteem and all that. I used to have the time and energy to dedicate to arguing with people who are smarter and more mature than me over the internet, but I don't anymore. And I'm really sorry you took it so personally because I didn't mean it that way at all. So please, just lay off and I won't post any more dissenting opinions in your direction.
And Kas, honestly, I don't know how to reply to that. All I can say is that I hope someone links you to this thread the next time you bristle at them calling you and your lot a bunch of fascist, ignorant, closed-minded bigots.
Must be because we travel in very different circles. I've seen a few conservative Maddox-wannabies, but not many.
On a slightly different note, I find the whole 'angry' thing to be very tired and boring. Every board has at least one person who posts pseudo-intellectual crap and oodles of flamebait topics all the time.
On the topic of the symbol, the way I see it is that indeed, it was originally a symbol of luck and life and all that, and now it is different. The original post by S'Il was written to inform those board members who might not know this of the fact. I believe, perhaps, Theren wanted to use this as part of a much more broad point, namely, that symbols become whatever they are believed to be, which is true. However, the argument occured due to the following misunderstanding:
Theren's point, although well-observed, was perhaps poorly worded, not in its' meaning but in its' intent, S'Il seems to have misunderstood Theren in thinking that Theren meant that it is wrong to talk about what the symbol was, because meaning changes. This might be because Theren seems to have thought that S'Il was trying to say in his original post that because the Swastika originally meant life etc, that is what it should represent now instead of Nazis.
You seem to have both in part misunderstood the other, and in either case one misunderstood the other, thinking him to be acting in a pseudo-intellectual manner, and the other decided to argue back, as they failed to notice and correct the misunderstanding.
I admit, that's a rather wordy explaination, but I think it's about right.
