How so has he defended the Nazi Party? What part of it?
Among those abused in Iraq: Journalists
Telan's one Grandfather was in the S.S. Duesh.
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The Nazi Party wasn't so bad. Americans abuse people too. And stuff.... uh.... Heil Hitler?
The Nazi Party wasn't so bad. Americans abuse people too. And stuff.... uh.... Heil Hitler?
If you mean that one post where he says not only Jews were in camps, and not all Germans were Nazis, he's right. I didn't see him say "the Nazi Party wasn't so bad" -- at least not in that thread.
One thing the German people of today really hate is to be lumped in with Nazis. It's like saying all American Southerners are members of the KKK.
(And I live in Georgia, so don't start.)
However I disagree with his current stance on treatment of prisoners.
One thing the German people of today really hate is to be lumped in with Nazis. It's like saying all American Southerners are members of the KKK.
(And I live in Georgia, so don't start.)
However I disagree with his current stance on treatment of prisoners.
Ah, but what does it mean to be a Neo-Nazi?
Although heil Hitler is bad enough, you don't necessairly shoot them until they say, Heil Himmler.
Yall are some morons. I was just making a statement, yall didn't have to start on a logic train of nazi insults on him.
Yeah that's kind of low.
He could just as easily go after you for the fact that all of your ancestors committed mass murder against the Native Americans and continue to live on the land you stole from them without paying reparations.
Or the fact most of you belong to a religion singularly responsible for some of the worst atrocities in history. Telan may have two right hands but it doesn't mean he's a Nazi. Just a very frightening guy who probably has a shrine to Pat Buchanan in his house.
He could just as easily go after you for the fact that all of your ancestors committed mass murder against the Native Americans and continue to live on the land you stole from them without paying reparations.
Or the fact most of you belong to a religion singularly responsible for some of the worst atrocities in history. Telan may have two right hands but it doesn't mean he's a Nazi. Just a very frightening guy who probably has a shrine to Pat Buchanan in his house.
(Though that "prisoners" statement was totally indefensible in every sense of the word.)
That's what I'm rebutting too.
I have no problem with his grandfather, grand uncle, grand inquisitor, grand stand, grand whatever being in whatever mark of a facist government. My grandfather fought in the war, and when he came back, he found that him and his friends, who worked on the docks, were going to have to take a pay CUT as the Nation's economy slowed down. He did some pretty bad things to keep his job... on more then one occaision, beating men who the company hired to cross the picket line and work... and I'm sure there are horrors of war he went through I never wish to experience. I want none of this to be held against me, and I do not believe it shoulod be. Nor would I hold it against Telan.
What I do hold against him is this comment. They were prisoners of race... that's all. They worked as journalists for an American news service... but they were taken prisoner, held without trial, beaten, sexually abused, embarassed... and in case you didn't read it, which you clearly didn't,they:
Now, this @#%$ would never fly if an innocent American were held in jail beaten and abused without charge. If he were black, it wouldn't amount to much, but if he were white you can be damn sure it would national news. But he's not white, he's not christian, and he's not American. Thus, no one gives a damn.
The bottom line is that nothing is going to come of this. Much like the friendly fire incident where the soldiers were fined... today one of the suspects caught on video was DEMOTED and issued a formal demerit on his record. Get the @#%$ out... you hold people at gunpoint and force them to rape other men, and you get demoted? A god damn demerit? I don't care if these are bad people. Because not all of them are. The statements I've heard, from conservatives and Telan, is that these are bad people... terrorists... who cares?
Well, these aren't all terrorists. These are innocent people being taken, without trial, without a lawyer, and treated like animals. Like god damn animals. No more is it all right for you to say "these people are prisoners" then it's all right for me to say "Americans in Iraq are bad people" because a few of them shot civilans. Not not all Americans in Iraq are bad. But neither are all Iraqi's.
It's clear to me that Telan's disinterested in unimportant things like basic human rights when it comes to people who aren't upstanding members of a blonde and white society, and his complete shrugging off of the fact that some German people in the past were bad (note the word Nazis. Firstly, most concentration camp guards were Germanic, Flemish, Swede, Norwegian, Danish, et al. And not all Germans were Nazis -Telan) I mean what the @#%$? THe "not all Germans are Nazi's statement is fine and inoffensive, but Telan, the Nazi's that were Germans did bad things, and to say that most Nazi's weren't Germans is possibly the stupidest denial of history I have ever heard, and I watch CNN. And then you followed it up with a statement quickly blaming the Americans for stuff too (And what about the Amis? How many times did you go through your own period of abusing your own citizens? How long did you abuse, torture, enslave, kill, maim, degrade, and villify the blacks????). This all seems like the arguement of someone who is either in denial of the true evil history of Germany, which granted is just that, or is a defensive of what he feels are acceptable actions by a proud and righteous group of people who in actuallity were sadistic and personallity pathetic and deplorable people.
Either way, Telan is wrong, Nazi's are bad, and innocent journalists deserve better then to be forced to lick their own anal discharge from their fingers at gunpoint.
I have no problem with his grandfather, grand uncle, grand inquisitor, grand stand, grand whatever being in whatever mark of a facist government. My grandfather fought in the war, and when he came back, he found that him and his friends, who worked on the docks, were going to have to take a pay CUT as the Nation's economy slowed down. He did some pretty bad things to keep his job... on more then one occaision, beating men who the company hired to cross the picket line and work... and I'm sure there are horrors of war he went through I never wish to experience. I want none of this to be held against me, and I do not believe it shoulod be. Nor would I hold it against Telan.
What I do hold against him is this comment. They were prisoners of race... that's all. They worked as journalists for an American news service... but they were taken prisoner, held without trial, beaten, sexually abused, embarassed... and in case you didn't read it, which you clearly didn't,they:
Now, this @#%$ would never fly if an innocent American were held in jail beaten and abused without charge. If he were black, it wouldn't amount to much, but if he were white you can be damn sure it would national news. But he's not white, he's not christian, and he's not American. Thus, no one gives a damn.
The bottom line is that nothing is going to come of this. Much like the friendly fire incident where the soldiers were fined... today one of the suspects caught on video was DEMOTED and issued a formal demerit on his record. Get the @#%$ out... you hold people at gunpoint and force them to rape other men, and you get demoted? A god damn demerit? I don't care if these are bad people. Because not all of them are. The statements I've heard, from conservatives and Telan, is that these are bad people... terrorists... who cares?
Well, these aren't all terrorists. These are innocent people being taken, without trial, without a lawyer, and treated like animals. Like god damn animals. No more is it all right for you to say "these people are prisoners" then it's all right for me to say "Americans in Iraq are bad people" because a few of them shot civilans. Not not all Americans in Iraq are bad. But neither are all Iraqi's.
It's clear to me that Telan's disinterested in unimportant things like basic human rights when it comes to people who aren't upstanding members of a blonde and white society, and his complete shrugging off of the fact that some German people in the past were bad (note the word Nazis. Firstly, most concentration camp guards were Germanic, Flemish, Swede, Norwegian, Danish, et al. And not all Germans were Nazis -Telan) I mean what the @#%$? THe "not all Germans are Nazi's statement is fine and inoffensive, but Telan, the Nazi's that were Germans did bad things, and to say that most Nazi's weren't Germans is possibly the stupidest denial of history I have ever heard, and I watch CNN. And then you followed it up with a statement quickly blaming the Americans for stuff too (And what about the Amis? How many times did you go through your own period of abusing your own citizens? How long did you abuse, torture, enslave, kill, maim, degrade, and villify the blacks????). This all seems like the arguement of someone who is either in denial of the true evil history of Germany, which granted is just that, or is a defensive of what he feels are acceptable actions by a proud and righteous group of people who in actuallity were sadistic and personallity pathetic and deplorable people.
Either way, Telan is wrong, Nazi's are bad, and innocent journalists deserve better then to be forced to lick their own anal discharge from their fingers at gunpoint.