<a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/10/20031025-1.html" target="_new">Protect us from pornography Mr. President!</a>

Pornography can have debilitating effects on communities, marriages, families, and children. During Protection From Pornography Week, we commit to take steps to confront the dangers of pornography.

The effects of pornography are particularly pernicious with respect to children. The recent enactment of the PROTECT Act of 2003 strengthens child pornography laws, establishes the Federal Government's role in the AMBER Alert System, increases punishment for Federal crimes against children, and authorizes judges to require extended supervision of sex offenders who are released from prison.

We have committed significant resources to the Department of Justice to intensify investigative and prosecutorial efforts to combat obscenity, child pornography, and child sexual exploi-ta-tion on the Internet. We are vigorously prosecuting and severely punishing those who would harm our children. Last July, the Department of Homeland Security launched Operation Predator, an initiative to help identify child predators, rescue children depicted in child pornography, and prosecute those responsible for making and distributing child pornography.

I don't see how this is a bad thing? :oO

I must admit, fighting against child pornography and exploitation - despite the fact that with the internet its' practically impossible to stamp out - seems like a morally just thing to do. Now, if he went on to use this as an excuse to - say - make it government policy to directly monitor everything everyone does on the internet, then he's clearly being too heavy handed, but everything he said seemed to be fair enough.

Yes, but there aren't any other problems in America to dedicate yet another week to. Stop THE Porn! *insert sarcasm for those who don't know me*


I love it when people are so uncomfortable about talking about particular subjects that they give it a title.

Stop The Racism!
Stop The Gays!
Stop The Child Porn!

It is my personal belief that those who are pedophiles and those guilty of making, soliciting, and using child pornography should be cruelly tortured until death.

Such acts using children is the ultimate corruption of innocence. These perverted minions of evil are without or with intent harming and effectively killing their prey. These poor fellows under the guns of such foul predators suffer considerably into their older age.

I cannot abide by an act that does too little. There are weeks for everything. There is even - in America - a Nation Tupperware week. This goes nowhere. Another week has passed. If you want to stop child pornography then give the pornographers something to fear! Jail for ten years??? Then they are older and more sadistic.

Give them jail for life without parole. Give them daily beatings and reeds under their nails. Chain them to the wall upside down so the blood can pool in their corrupt heads. Let the world know that there will be NO TOLERANCE not of immorality for its definition is contraversial, but guilt. Wrong cannot be freed. People make mistakes, this everyone knows. But it is no mistake to become aroused at the sight of children.

I am only 20 which makes my view suprising, no? Such a young fellow with such a jaded and harsh suggestion. I ask you - is it not a fair if not effective means of punishing the wrong and giving justice to the wronged? What of them? Counselling?

Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord according the bible. I am not an overly religious man but I believe that whatever divince presence rules will give to the evil what they deserve. But that is in the hereafter. Those in the hereandnow should get theirs as well.

^ Excessivly violent person.

*Holds back the German comments*

I am not excessively violent. But Dolash, put yourself in the shoes of the victim. What would you consider justice???

My point in posting this was primarily that declaring a "day" to protect the world from child pornography is stupid and does nothing. Also it is ironic that that message was posted on the internet of all places.

As for Telan, I believe we've had this argument about six times before. But here it goes.

Harsh punishments (such as the death penalty) rarely work as a deterrent. I know how much you bloodthirsty salivators who want to see the death penalty applied to everything from stealing a stick of gum to looking at someone the wrong way like to think it is, but it is not. Criminal acts are inherently irrational -- most either believe they will not get caught or are desperate enough not to care about the consequences.

The death penalty accomplishes literally nothing. Torture would accomplish less. What is changed by the end of another life? Is the victim brought back, either to life or to the state they were in before they were victimized? No. Does it particularly help the victim? Whether or not you like it, revenge won't erase what has happened. False notions of "closure" aside, psychologically nothing has changed. Instead another life is cut short, and another family -- as innocent as the victim's, like it or not -- is left grieving.

The death penalty -- or your twisted notions -- is inheirently contradictory. If you place so little importance on human life that you can see stand to see killing (sometimes of innocent people accidentally convicted) done in its name, why do you care at all?

I am only 20 which makes my view suprising, no? Such a young fellow with such a jaded and harsh suggestion.

No actually it's pretty much expected. I would say your suggestion indicates an idealistic and incredibly naive faith in both the justice system and the judgement of men, both of which are so chronically short sighted that it's almost absurd. When you institute the death penalty -- and what's considerably worse, your horrifying little ideas -- you entrust something totally irreversible into the hands of people as flawed as those who committed the crime.

Better that a thousand guilty men be left alive than one innocent man die. Innocent men have been incarcerated in the United States. Innocent men have been put to death in the United States. If you do not believe that this has happened you have to wake the @#%$ up. It has happened and it will happen again. And for what? To satisfy the bloodlust of a few politicians? To make a few victims that think another death will put things back to how they were temporarily happy? You once asked me if I can look into a woman's eyes and tell her her rapist is going to be allowed to live. I certainly can. Can you look into a woman's eyes and tell her her innocent husband was killed (or tortured and killed, perhaps) for crimes that fallable human beings in an imperfect justice system deemed him guilty of?

I don't believe in god. But if you do, you most likely believe that only he can know all things and fully attribute guilt or innocence. If you don't think his justice is sufficient, then you think he is making a mistake. And if god makes mistakes, how do you know that you're not one of them?

Next thing you know, they'll be dancing